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Shaw about that? : Comments

By Debbie Garratt, published 9/5/2014

Victorian Liberal MP Geoff Shaw raises some interesting issues with regard to abortion, engendering the usual hysterical outbursts from radicals only concerned about the availability of abortion.

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Well, usually consent is needed, to actually make a woman pregnant!
If this is not so, then there is a case for medical intervention, ditto where there is a very real risk to the health and well being of the mother, or where there are already too many mouths to feed, or the mother just too young and still at school, with the rest of her life before her!!
That said, on demand abortion should never be a substitute for contraceptives, which include condoms, the pill, and the morning after pill; the latter simply prevents ovulation, while any sperm remains viable!
If there is a case for abortion, a battered or raped wife, incest, or criminal rape etc, it is one that ought to be concluded, before there is a beating human heart!
Given quite deliberately stopping a viable beating human heart inside or outside the womb, is still murder, regardless of how it is dressed up or dismissed! Like say, in the final solution for an inferior race?
And yes, there are rare cases, where the baby and the mother, automatically reject the other blood or DNA type, in which case, there is no other option but to terminate, for medical reasons!
And there ought to be an option included at the time of any abortion, for informed consent sterilization?
After all, sterilization is the ultimate birth control!
And we can be Shaw about that!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:50:45 AM
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The pro-abortionists do not want to think about whether the fetes feels pain because then it begins to look like a human being. The idea that we should have this regard for the doomed fetes signals that something is very wrong indeed: "we are going to murder you but we don't want you to feel any pain".

What kind of society are we when we give the "right" to kill our offspring with no strings attached? What kind of society are we that suffocates the future promised by new human beings?

Peter Sellick
Posted by Sells, Saturday, 10 May 2014 12:13:38 PM
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individual "So, you'd rather see people live in misery than aborting a handful of cells?"

By the time most abortions happen, we are well beyond the clump of cells stage.
If it has arms and legs, it's not some indeterminate "thing".

Who will be miserable?
The woman? She doesn't have to keep it.
The children? They can be adopted by people who really *want* them.

Everyone in this world is miserable to some extent.
Nobody lives a truly satisfying life.

"If nature can be so cruel as to not give people a natural choice"

Nature doesn't give us a choice about *how* we reproduce.
But we always have a choice about how we engage in sex.

There is only *one* way to get pregnant.
There are dozens of ways to give and receive sexual pleasure that won't get you pregnant.

If you engage in the *one and only* reproductive sexual act, knowing the potential consequences, you have already made your "choice".
Posted by Shockadelic, Saturday, 10 May 2014 12:16:21 PM
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Peter Sells, what are you on about fetes for? Aren't they places that sell cakes and sweets etc?

If you are going to comment on abortions of women for reasons you know nothing about, at least get the spelling 'fetus' right.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 10 May 2014 1:22:19 PM
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The woman? She doesn't have to keep it.
Shockadelic,
So, are you volunteering to support & look after such a child ? Why do think there are so many dysfunctional families with just as dysfunctional kids who in turn produce dysfunctional kids which in turn results in a stuffed up society we have now ?
I would prefer women to get free contraception before anything else. I'm not in favour of picking up the tab for some mass breeders. If they want that particular pleasure then let them deal with the consequences, stop fleecing me.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 10 May 2014 5:01:52 PM
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I feel the same way about the men who impregnate them, Individual.
Obviously, they don't use contraception to prevent a pregnancy either....
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 10 May 2014 5:27:51 PM
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