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Why we broke the law : Comments

By Laura Vertigan, published 17/4/2014

I was one of those weirdo Christians who got arrested in Julie Bishop's office yesterday.

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Humor or dementia --my moneys on the latter!
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 19 April 2014 4:36:54 PM
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Our current policy costs some $5 billion annually. Changing to community-based solutions would cost approximately $500 million, saving taxpayers $4.5 billion dollars. By the government's own admission, the costs of detention far exceeds any community-based solutions. Additionally, ASIO has admitted that they do not require asylum seekers to be in detention. Beyond an initial security check, it is purely a political move.
Laura,
That would be the case if they suddenly decided to stop coming. What exactly would be your solution to achieve that ? Yes you're right it is a political move because the ALP govt has made it one. From now on though it'll be the more sober type of move, an economical & recovery move.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 19 April 2014 4:39:35 PM
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Laura

You are obviously sensitive and intelligent. However you are not well enough read. Some here have quoted various philosophers supporting or questioning your actions.
None have refered to Plato's story of Socretes.

He disagreed with and was in breech of his society's laws. He had only two choices. Death or exile. He chose suicide.

Today we are much more civilised but the principle is the same. We have many alternatives. One is activitism within the law. If the actions you take are illegal and charges are laid take the consequence without 'sooking' about how noble you are. Your actions are not noble. You have broken our laws and no amount of bleating will change that.
Comparisons with Mandala, Ghandi and King are absurd. They acted in the interests of themselves and for their own oppressed people in their own societies. None were seeking to further the interests of people who were breaching their societies laws.Only Ghandi widely promoted civil disobedience or law breaking even though Mandala was jailed for terrorist activity. They both eventually adopted peaceful and legal methods. King was always peaceful and did not seek to act outside the law.

In all three cases it was legitimate action which eventually bought about great changes.

Your action was illegimate and pointless as it will not change the minds of people within your society. Find another way.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 19 April 2014 5:03:13 PM
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THANKS DAVID/BUT IT WAS A CHEAP SHOT
i put up much the same idea/but my idea was send them home withausie if lawyers and guards..[this de population..is a globa thing/drive off the abo's.buldozer over their village/sell off their lands..or resources.

but the same thing happend with our parents
they too were driven out of their homelands
but it was inspired by the malasia/tamals/or the timoreaze.indonesia
in fact north korea/and cambodia etc etc..send em home needs protection/but moraly its the right thing to do/but ultimatly would need true christians to make it work

the world is getting pillaged and plundered
I HATE THE ID THESE RACISTS WIN BOTH WAYS
ONE LOT OF RACISTS STEAL THEIR INHERITANCE/THE OTHER RETURNS THEM TO THEIR OPPRESSORS..THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO HELP THE RACXISATS SEE/thats its ok to be race proud.[if thats all you got to be proud/of]

but you got more in common with many
individuals..of the races you despise/than your own race

im saying like science peers/or music type/mental-skills sports
MATH NUTTERS LOVE MATH NUTTING..bepopers love beebopping
the point is hating other..just..for race,..its a non starter

i can point to mass murderous GRUNTS..IN OUR ARMY..
that usually dont condem their whole race...[unless your the current target race]..yes we hate nips gooks crauts huns scums and other tongues..

[we hate because we dont goT ANY ACHIEVEMENTS OF OUR OWN..AND TS THE EASIEST TO DO..TO GET MATES..RACIST GROUPS ARE WHAT YOU JOIN WHEN ALL ELSE HAS REJECTED THEM.

ITS THE SUPPLE RACISM..I HATE..like here it is jesus death day
these racists think jesus wasnt Semite looking/

but here its jesus died today day

and im watching be hur..[the poor jews]..for the fiftieth time
that or some singing jesus]..i just want THE truth.. IN WRITING.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 5:06:15 PM
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Laura ignore the so called "Moralists, as they know not what they do.
They are anti all who do not agree with them, and obviously live sad blinkered lives.
Posted by Kipp, Saturday, 19 April 2014 5:10:05 PM
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Dear David,

<<Nonsense repeated remains nonsense.>>

By claiming that "Barbarism is a basic feature of religion" you are accusing myself and billions of peace-loving people of barbarism. You also open the door on the persecution of innocents.

It is ridiculous to grant either a person or an organisation the title 'religious' on the sole grounds that they claim to be so, how more so when their actual actions are totally inconsistent with religion.

But even if you consider churches and similar organisations that CLAIM to be religious to indeed be so, the fact that some people within those organisations are hypocritical criminals does not make the rest of us criminals, some of us not even belonging to any such organisation.

I do take offence for this attack on myself and my religious friends.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 19 April 2014 7:59:53 PM
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