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The IPCC now says it’s OK to adapt to ‘climate change’ : Comments
By Don Aitkin, published 11/4/2014It seems to me that the IPCC may well be coming to the view that if it is to survive, it will have to have more than the mitigation arrow in its quiver.
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Posted by cohenite, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:48:01 PM
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The irrelevance of the substance of your post, ant , makes it clear that you have no science to justify your baseless assertion of AGW.
Ice melts and reforms all the time, so to find some melting ice and assert that it proves global warming is puerile. Global warming stopped at least 17, but probably 19 years ago. The increased CO2 content in the atmosphere is not causing warming. Even if it were, there is no basis to assert that the increased CO2 arises from human activity. It must have been cold, to freeze the ice at the South Pole in which the ship carrying the fraud backing scientists was iced in, while they were asserting that the ice had been melted by global warming caused by human emissions. Have you no sense of how stupid you make yourself appear, by endorsing the AGW fraud? The El Nino event is part of a natural cycle, and has no relevance to AGW, if that is what your idle question is implying. You say:” There had been a bump in temperature in 1998, but since that time temperature records have been continually set. “. In what alternate reality was that? In the real world, there has been no warming since 1998, only cooling. You are dead in the water, ant, but your output of nonsense is unabated. Please face facts, and stop wasting everyone’s time Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 14 April 2014 1:14:55 PM
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cohenite, you blokes are not getting any traction in relation to whats happening in the Arctic region and getting a bit feisty. You are not able to find any real references that knock what I have written, I've been describing what is actually happening. The National Snow and Ice Data Centre shows a graph indicating you are completely wrong about 1974 being a record low year for ice cover. Their graph goes back to 1953.
http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html cohenite, could you give your reference for 1974, logically it doesn’t make sense due to the thickness of the ice in the 1970s and the thickness and lack of mass now. Nobody to my knowledge has made any inferences to Cyclone Ita, it is the cyclone season still. Watts is no scientist, he has made statements about other climate matters that were found to be wrong. Measurement of temperature was one matter where he came a cropper. BOM has been making predictions about El Nino events for some years. From memory it was about a month ago they stated that the possibility of an El Nino event happening was 50% they have since increased that percentage. Leo, ice does melt and reforms, but David Bellamy was made to look a fool in a debate when he pushed that view.It being a case of more ice being lost than is reformed. You don’t have any answers because a breakdown in the amount of sea ice in the Arctic is happening. Anybody that has gone to references I have given would know that to be true. Even a tourist brochure from Greenland states that the glaciers are retreating. Posted by ant, Monday, 14 April 2014 3:30:48 PM
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www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_full_report.pdf
http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/screenhunter_170-jun-15-11-10.jpg Posted by cohenite, Monday, 14 April 2014 4:19:13 PM
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Give up on the ice, ant, it has been done to death over the years, and everyone knows that it is nonsense. Year after year we were told that the Arctic ice would melt, until some clown believed it and had to be rescued when he was iced in, because the ice had not melted as stated by the Climate Liars. If you followed Bolt, you would know about it and not try to put this nonsense over people who keep themselves informed, and avoid the nonsense sites which occupy your time.
Even you, determined as you are to be immune to facts, must know that the fraud backing scientist Turney caused a ship to be stuck in the ice at the South Pole because he proceeded as if the nonsense he talked about melting ice were true. You have a perfect record, ant. In all of your posts you have managed to avoid inclusion of anything sensible or informative. This must have required meticulous care, but I am sure your aversion to facts stood you in good stead. Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 14 April 2014 4:25:45 PM
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Good try with your reference cohenite, wordpress does not exactly stand up to the official site that I provided. One site I visited suggested that "Steven Goddard" is a pseudonym; it was less than polite about him.
But, here is another site that critiques Goddard. http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0921/While-Arctic-melts-Antarctic-ice-hits-record.-Is-warming-debunked Is the Christian Science Monitor likely to lie, Leo? The ship being stuck in Antarctica has nothing to do with whats happening in the Arctic, Leo. You haven't come up with any references that show that climate change is not happening in the Arctic. Leo, you might like to explain why this tourist brochure is wrong when it states "And, unfortunately, these changes are more extreme than ever. The inland ice is melting and retreating at an unprecedented rate. Global warming is leaving its mark." From http://www.greenland.com/en/about-greenland/natur-klima.aspx Posted by ant, Monday, 14 April 2014 5:55:04 PM
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How did cyclone Ita go for the alarmists; it was going to be the end of the North QLD coast; how did that go ant?
SST has been flat since 1980 as has OHC in the Tropics and there has been no Modoki upward trend:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/asl2.502/abstract
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/11/the-201415-el-nino-part-2-the-alarmist-misinformation-bs-begins/
The highest ice levels in the Arctic were in 1979 and the lowest 1974.
AGW is such a lie; but keep your shrieking up ant; it's what alarmists do.