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The IPCC now says it’s OK to adapt to ‘climate change’ : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 11/4/2014

It seems to me that the IPCC may well be coming to the view that if it is to survive, it will have to have more than the mitigation arrow in its quiver.

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Extract/conclusion from a lengthy article on Past Climate Cycles - to be found at the following link:

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/cycles.htm

(I'm not sure about the credentials of the author, but the article is extensive in its coverage of the data, and the list of source information is also extensive.)

"By the start of the 21st century, it was clear that the connection between global temperature and greenhouse gas levels was a major geological force. All through the Pleistocene, the greenhouse gas feedback had turned the planet's orbital cycles from minor climate variations to grand transformations that affected all life on the planet. The geological record gave a striking verification, with wholly independent methods and data, of the processes that computer models were predicting would bring a rapid and severe global warming — a disruption of climate exceeding anything seen since the emergence of the human species."

The graph contained in the article, showing a relationship between atmospheric CO2 and methane levels and average (global) temperature variation - from ice-core records covering the last 320,000 years - is also significantly informative.

Climate is obviously complex, but the relationship between overt 'climate' and the prevailing levels of greenhouse gasses pertaining, at any given point in time, seems irrefutable.

It appears that decline into an ice-age is extraordinarily slow, but the ascent out of an ice-age extremely rapid.
The rapid ascent being explained by slight warming due to orbital variation causing a corresponding increase in atmospheric greenhouse gas levels - which then accelerates 'warming', in what appears to be an exponential, self-perpetuating 'forcing'.
Why the subsequent decline into an ice-age? I have no idea(yet). Maybe a 'tipping point' is reached, where a massive decline in biological activity is wrought by excessive temperature and decreased rainfall, followed by a slight decrease in temperature, due to orbital shift, which causes the start of a progressive reduction in greenhouse gasses, which self-perpetuates a 'forcing' into ever-decreasing greenhouse gas levels - and hence progressive 'cooling'?
Posted by Saltpetre, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 6:12:03 PM
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Red Barron, very interesting that your Professor stated “The intensity of the warming will be about twice as high here”, Frolov said. Also,
"During the last 40 years, the average temperature in Russian has increased 0.4 degrees every ten years. The global warming can been seen through higher air temperatures, reduction in ice cover and snow cover, higher sea levels, Frolov said and reminded that the Arctic ice cover last year reached a record low."

http://barentsobserver.com/en/nature/2013/11/russia-most-affected-global-warming-12-11
Posted by ant, Thursday, 24 April 2014 4:16:04 PM
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FROM/THE ANT..link

<<..“The intensity of the warming>>
not climate change?
you sure/this is upto date?
the term..is change..not warming after not cooling was rteFUTED

ITS CHANGE ANT
GET IT RIGHT..cli*mate/change*..[right?]

<<will be about twice as high here”, Frolov said.>>

oh/wow..twice as high..how/why?

<<..During the last 40 years,..the average temperature in Russian has increased 0.4 degrees every ten years.>>

BUT WAIT..<<>.The report also projected that average temperatures will rise 0.3 to 4.8 degrees C by the end of the century.>>

IF TEN YEARS IS 4 DEGREES..THEN 100=40 DEGREES
but the same report 'projects'..<<..average temperatures will rise 0.3 to 4.8 degrees C by the end of the century.>>

poinmt 3..is ONE TENTH OF THE TEM YEAR 4 DEGREE
HOW IS THIS WARMING//and how come 4 degrees per ten years turn into..A MAX OVER 100 YEARS EQUAL TO ONLY 10 YEARS

<<..average temperatures will rise 0.3 to 4.8 degrees C by the end of the century.>>

<<..Arctic ice cover last year reached a record low....>>
YES WE SAW THE STRANDED WARMISTS..ON THE BEACH IN THEIR BATHERS OVER XMASS

<<.. surface water of the Barents Sea was 5 degrees C warmer than normal.>>

yeah/thats right..[lol]..next door to antarctic..[sic*]

<<..They linked the peak-temperatures with the unusual warm summer in the northernmost parts of mainland Norway and on Russia’s Kola Peninsula.>>.

and iognored the 4000 new cols records set over northern winter
LOL ANTARTIC FREEZING SOLID IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER
its sad these proessional decievers..are so filled with guilt/they feel helplessv as ants



Tnoote the weazel wpords

<<>.“extremely likely”>> ..<<.. adopting its strongest language yet on the state of the world’s climate system.>>>

lol

<<.In its previous assessment in 2007 the U.N. panel said it was “very likely” ..that humans caused global warming.>>

yes a likely delusion..HMMM WILL IT RAIN TOMORROW?
VERY Likely..unlikely//hardly/likely..not likely

and to distract/that water/level..hasnt risen[nederland][..

<<>.The IPCC report projected a sea level rise by 2100 of 26-82 centimeters, up from the 18-59 centimeter rise it predicted six years ago.>>..cause that way it looks like they got proof/and are more sure/when its allready refuted the earlier lie
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 April 2014 6:05:06 PM
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Hang in there ant.

Have you given any further thought to CO2 absorbing radiation as you pointed out several pages back, and fact algae absorbs CO2, and my question of whether or not AGW - Kyoto science has measured and assessed photosynthesis-linked warmth in ocean algae plant matter?

I suggest search "algae Barents Sea".
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 24 April 2014 7:36:13 PM
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The Abbott-Hunt Direct Action climate change policy is focussed on CO2 emissions with no apparent scientific measurement and assessment of photosynthesis-linked warmth in ocean algae plant matter.

Climate change science is incomplete.

Water management and plumbing industry business and employment should be booming, to reduce sewage and land use nutrient pollution that is causing unprecedented massive algae blooms in this day and age.

Of course there are air pollution problems in some parts of the world, however reducing CO2 emissions to mitigate climate change is non-sense.

Who will get the commissions from the auctions?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-24/government-releases-climate-change-policy-white-paper/5409262
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 24 April 2014 9:18:22 PM
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Weightings on various aspects of climate change
Part 1
Weighting factors are estimated values indicating the relative importance or impact of each item in a group as compared to the other items in the group. In this instance I shall attempt to weight the various aspects of climate. For the purpose of this exercise `climate’ is defined as a period of weather records over a thirty year time span.
The purpose of assigning weighting factors is straightforward. They help us establish the importance in descending order of the various components which shape the climate on this planet. There are many elements which contribute to our planet’s weather system.

Based on my own research, I would rate the following influences, the major components which shape, control and influence climate. There are many considerations, including a range of variables which are dynamic and constantly changing.

Aspect, category. Weighting

I. Heliosphere (sun spot activity); Cosmic winds.
Without the Sun there would be no light or warmth, or no life. 50%

2. Magnetosphere
The magnetosphere protects the planet from too much UV and makes
life possible on Earth 20%

3. Deviation of Earth’s rotational axis to the vertical.
Earth’s orbital variations (The Earth’s tilt ranges from 22 to 24.5.
Currently it’s 23.3). 5%

4. Ocean influences; Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO),
Atlantic Multi-decadal Oscillation (AMO). Jetstream, Gulfstream 5%

5. Variation of Earth’s orbit. Variation in distance from the Sun;
more elongated the more temperatures drop. `Milankovic effect’). 4%
6. Proximity to equator,
The further away the colder it gets 4%
7. Level and intensity of cloud cover (water vapour concentrations) 3%
8. Land use changes, clear felling of native forests, cropping etc, 2%
9. Influence of Moon on tides, fluctuating ocean levels. 1%
10. The El Nino (dry, warmer weather) or La Nina (cooler, wetter weather) 1%
11. Volcanic activity on land and on sea bed floor,
changing acidity levels. 1%
12. Ice-reflectivity feedback, 1%
13. Direction of prevailing winds, 1%
14. Location, including proximity to the ocean, mountains, rainforest etc. 1%
15. Industrial and commercial activity (includes CO2 emissions). 1%
Total 100
Posted by Red Baron, Saturday, 26 April 2014 1:58:24 PM
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