worse, not worth

,,..<<..this is not surprising..if the primary aim of religion is spiritual..not political>>

AGAIN/SADLY RELIGION IS FAR FROM/THE matters of spirit
and separation of church from state..is both a joke and the sad reality...[fine dining..fixates the materialist realm]

this 'not political'..[sic*]..seeks..<<..to tell us how we should live our lives rather than define the social institutions and policies we should adopt.>>

nor limit their presumptions to lord it over us via moralizing lAW
Punitive sin taxes..guilt fear and eternal war mongering[and no one dedicated to bring peace to gods children[even our fighters die by their own hands[separation of church from/state..has failed hugely

<<.These two realms>.

these Intertwined satan realm that have enslaved the living into servitude to dead corporate fictions...lorded over by those changing money for usury and debt..and debt into a serfdom..inside this prison planet..the minions of satan lord it over by oppressing the living with the burden of bailing out the dead[govt created cooperate [in-cORPSE-ORated fictions..

<<..which some philosophers distinguish as>>

ethics and morality..are not realms
just as grace and mercy are not realms

the morality of 'statuted'..ethics are yet further sin taxes with which the dead paper fictions lord it over the sukked dry

stuff it just rewrite..it

in practice usage morality varies and the terms and limitations[indeed applications..for applied as opposed to implied 'ethics'..are largely synonymous)[only in the realms of delusion - thus they are connected in impotent ways, but there in..remains a lively debate between and within political parties which ignores religious ideas and doctrines...were either side interested in a talkfest..on the public purse.

<<

..How does this debate and the ordinary, everyday values it draws on relate to arguments which appeal to religious authority?>.

its a dream[tell him.dhe is dreaming..around the edges]
tell him..charity is an application/act..not a state/realm..nor useful fiction talisman.

<<..The choice of words is deliberate; 'ordinary' is better than 'secular'>>

neither word is the be/all-end/all..catch-all
how about extremist..application of the words to a concept relitive to loving other..as the..w ay to give back..to god[or society]..the false god

<<>..[because the latter[secular]..is widely understood..to deny the existence of God,>>

and one cannot serve two masters
http://board.freedomainradio.com/page/books/the_handbook_of_human_ownership_a_manual_for_new_tax_farmers.html

<<....whereas the values..in point are,..if not universal,..at least ubiquitous-->>they figure in the arguments of believers,..agnostics and atheists alike...'Quotidian' may be a better term,..but it is not one familiar in this context.>>

its a shame..that big words confuse and confound,
and [yes they are realms]your living in it..[its designed to confuse and confound..even the worldly and wise[to sort out the sheep from the tares the goat grom the wheat..the sinned against from the love of sin...here we each get equal wage..for a life well lived..the wage is grace and mercy..you get it..SIMPLY BY GIVING IT.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0

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Dear david f. and George,

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David wrote :

“My understanding of monotheism is that it embodies the belief that God is a unitary entity. Your equation 1+1+1=1 is true in Boolean algebra. However, Christianity also embodies the equation 1+1=1. The latter equation is an expression of the belief that Jesus was divine. That is also a departure from monotheism. The divinity of Jesus and the trinity are Boolish in essence”.

I'm afraid that's way above my head, David. I should have to sit down with you and discuss it for many long hours before I could possibly understand.

The only algebra I am familiar with is that which allows me to check that shopkeepers have handed me the right change.

That was the algebra I used for the algorithm 1+1+1 = 1, the logic behind it being that it doesn't matter how many forms god may take simultaneously nor how many places he may occupy at the same time, you can only count him for one.

My references are not found in the bible, nor in any other academic source. The reference I have in mind is standing on a hill when I was a boy, overlooking a flock of sheep in the Queensland bush and trying to count them as they gently grazed in the valley below.

I was with my brother and though we counted and recounted several times, we never could agree on the total number of sheep. We had nothing better to do and had all the time in the world, but what proved to be an insurmountable difficulty was not to count the same sheep twice, nor to mistakenly think it had already been counted, as they slowly moved around while grazing. From our observation point every sheep looked alike. If you have ever had the experience I think you will agree it is no easy task.

The Trinitarian doctrine of 1+1+1 = 1 means that we are looking at the same "sheep" three times and should only count it as one.

George, what a pleasure to see your smile !

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Dear George,

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You first wrote :

“ Actually, it is worth than that. I get 1 = 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, if I follow your reasoning … “

Then hastily corrected:

“worse, not worth”

If you don’t mind, I’ll stick with the first version, the one which surged up from deep within your sub-conscious, escaped your control and commanded your fingers on the keyboard – what Freud termed “a bungled act that hides an unconscious desire” , a “lapsus manus” (slip of the hand) :

“worth, not worse”.

Unless, of course, you insist … in which case, I shall gracefully acquiesce.

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Dear Banjo,

In Boolean algebra there are only the two numbers 0 and 1.

The operation of addition:
0 + 0 = 0
1 + 0 = 1
0 + 1 = 1
1 + 1 = 1

The operation of multiplication:

0 x 0 = 0
1 x 0 = 0
0 x 1 = 0
1 x 1 = 1

Applying this to one form of computer circuitry:

OR gates perform Boolean addition.

If all inputs are 0, the output is 0. If any input is 1, the output is 1.

AND gates perform Boolean multiplication.

If any input is 0, the output is 0. If all inputs are 1, the output is 1.

0 and 1 may be expressed by different voltages

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-logic-influence/ tells of Leibniz's influence on Boole. If one considers 1 as the expression of a true statement and 0 as the expression of a false statement one can build logical systems using the quantities.