Your differences are stark.

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Dear George,

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You wrote :

« The mass killing of innocent people is bad by any moral standards, but the gas chambers are especially repugnant because they happened in modern times and the perpetrators were (supposed to be) cultural heirs of Goethe and Schiller. So taking into account the historical context can work both ways. »

I saw a documentary on French television recently of the trial of Adolf Eichmann as it was filmed at the time in 1960-1961. The camera flashed briefly on Hannah Arendt and Joseph Kessel who were present during the public hearings.

Eichmann remained perfectly calm and composed throughout the trial, respectful of the judge and the prosecutor, standing-up each time he replied to a question. It was an untiring ritual. By contrast, many of the survivors of the holocaust had difficulty controlling their emotions at the evocation of their traumatic experiences. One of the witnesses, a poet, I believe, appeared to lose himself in a verbal delirium until the judge intervened, provoking the poor fellow to tumble off the chair he was only half perched-on in the witness box. He collapsed on the floor, unconscious, and was carried-off on a stretcher.

The image I have of Eichmann is that of a very ordinary person - dare I say : an "average" person. He was neither stupid nor brilliant. He had a poor school record. He, nevertheless, picked-up some Hebrew and Yiddish in his work and gained a reputation as a specialist in Zionist and Jewish matters. He was polite and obedient of authority, not particularly cultivated and probably inherited nothing of Goethe and Schiller.

If there is such a thing as collective culture – which seems to be the case – it is obviously the most ignoble one which prevailed among the Germanic peoples during the Second World War.

The principal attributes of Eichmann, so far as I can judge, were his inability to accept responsibility and total amorality, the former logically being the consequence of the latter.

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<<>.so far as I can judge,>>

THE BIBLE EXTENSIVLY CAUTIONS US AGAINST JUDGING OTHER

<<>>were his inability to accept responsibility>>

as you know taking just twO of the options[phycppaths]..dont regard others as having any importance at/all[thus we asre commanded to love other

and the other is this obsession yet others have of following other
thus the need to sort the sheeple from the big-note[goat]

there are of course the sorting of the usefull from the useless
as in letting them grow together in satans realm/to be sorted at harvest..[these we sort into type of wheat..and type of tare]..its a horrible job yet we are so good at moralisation..we aply it to everything

then we get the possessed by demons..<<..and total amorality, the former logically being the consequence of the latter.>>

IM UNSURE..IF ITS not visa versa
so i reveal soME GEORGIAN relative..INFO..re bit coin..that seems to be using up [wasting]..vast amounts of computer time making up numbers.to open locks..[to me it seems a hacking operation/that rewards successful code breaking]..basically they high jack peoples computers to 'solve' problems..[access codes?]..and all the ones that could be solved..by our home computers..have been broken..so fools give up their computers/to cia/the biggest holder of bit coin/by far.

TO ME ITS IMMORAL WE USE up all that computer time to 'code break'..to open some imaginary lock..[especially id we got silly kids running computer bitcoin..programs..they could be used collectively to do great evil..[no doudt invented by useful idiots[goats..to abuse the sheeple..to turn their works from productive wheat..into tears

at best it gambling..at worse..who knows
but the bigger brain/computer tou give them access to
THE BIGGER The mining [for code]..payoff...whats the numbers on what if..ALL THAT COMPUTER 'TIME'..IS DEAD/OR NEGATIVE EQUITY..ie being used against us...damm morality//let others think for you..you invite demons unawares

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Dear One Under God,

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You wrote :

« THE BIBLE EXTENSIVLY CAUTIONS US AGAINST JUDGING OTHER »

I know the bible is your bible, One Under God, and I respect your deference to something you consider to be sacred.

I should, nevertheless, like to point out that nature has attributed us with the means of forming our own opinion (judgment) in a multitude of situations and circumstances, in order to assure our survival.

The mere fact of having two eyes enables us to “judge” distances with more accuracy than if we only had one. Jumping over ravines in our flight from predators, if we only had one eye, might prove just as fatal as being caught.

In the same way, our faculties of discernment (judgment) and “free will” are effective shields of defence against another type of predator. Without the faculties of discernment and free will, our naivety would expose us to the unsolicited enslavement of all sorts of gurus. We would be easy victims of con-men, manipulators, crooks and swindlers, unscrupulous salesmen, and all the zealous good-doers and do-gooders of this world.

And If we are not to “judge other” as the bible strongly recommends, how can we differentiate between God and the devil ? Are we to treat them the same ? Didn’t Jesus, himself, say :

« Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. » Luke 4:8 (King James Version) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipNWSdQaYw

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banjo/quote..<<..And If we are not to “judge other” as the bible strongly recommends,.how can we differentiate between God and the devil ?>>

im not sure i could judge either
but differentiation is simple..one sustains life-living love logic
the other is an embodiment..of evil..IF YOU LIKE BOTH ARE A CHILDISH CHARACTERIZATIONS..OF EXTREME EMBODIMENTS..BETWEEN /GOOD/LIFE/LIGHT/AND DARKNESS DEATH/SIN.

IN REALITY..OF COURSE GOD IS THE SUN
AND DEVILS INHABIT THE FACE OF THE SUN..[BEHIND THE RING OF FIRE]

<<..Are we to treat them the same..?>>

we are to know them/by their fruits[god=life/love]
and devils are embodiments and deciples of tHE VARIOUS SINS.

[IN TIME THE DEMONS/DEVILS WILL SIMPLY DISSOLVE/their astral forms..as their sin is resolved..[AS THE SPIRIT Animating their 'living'..moves on]..re-uniting..back into the holy spirit/even more time..god returns to the holy spirit


<<>>Didn’t Jesus, himself, say :« Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. » Luke 4:8 (King James Version) >>

i tried hard to HATE EVIL
I TRIED HARD TO HATE SATAN..BUT..without the fallen..[most beloved angel/of god]..we would have no freewill/..we would not have this post big bang realm..which he was 'cast out into'..along with half the angels.

ITS SAID IN THE HOLY TEXTS[LUKE7;28
<<>..I tell you, among those born of women..there is no-one greater than John;..yet the one who is least..in the kingdom of God is greater than he.>>

that got me thinking who.is the 'least'
who is yet greater..than any born of the flesh
in time i realized it..must be the fallen beloved angel/OF GOD..SATAN
HE HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED..TO BE IN HELL.and why should he be/there.. when this is his realm HERE...[AND WHO ELSE TO COMPARE HIM WITH BUT..THE BEST BORN OF WOMAN/..THE BAPTIZER..

ANYHOW..as revealed at the lamb ISLAND THREAD..WE ARE HERE/LIVING IN SATANS REALM..TO JUDGE SATANS 'FALL'/IS THIS FREEDOM FROM OBEDIENCE/A WISE CHOICE OF THE LOVING LIVING GRACE..MERCY..whole spirit..of atonement [at-one-meant]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0

anyhow i removed..THE 'S'..from the htt thing
WHATS IN/your vidio..[unwatched].
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipNWSdQaYw

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Dear One Under God,

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You wrote :

« i tried hard to HATE EVIL
I TRIED HARD TO HATE SATAN… »

I understand your difficulty and commiserate with you. Perhaps the reason is that there is no such thing as right and wrong in nature. There is just what is most efficient for survival and development. Morality is a human concept.

“Evil” is a secular concept and “devil” is a religious concept. Neither has any existence beyond the human mind and both will disappear with the extinction of humanity.

This is what the Online Etymology Dictionary has to say about the words:

Evil :

"In OE., as in all the other early Teut. langs., exc. Scandinavian, this word is the most comprehensive adjectival expression of disapproval, dislike or disparagement" [OED]. Evil was the word the Anglo-Saxons used where we would use bad, cruel, unskillful, defective (adj.), or harm, crime, misfortune, disease (n.). The meaning "extreme moral wickedness" was in Old English, but did not become the main sense until 18c. Related: Evilly. Evil eye (Latin oculus malus) was Old English eage yfel. Evilchild is attested as an English surname from 13c.

Satan :

In biblical sources the Hebrew term the satan describes an adversarial role. It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century B.C.E. occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity.

Devil :

The Late Latin word is from Ecclesiastical Greek diabolos, in Jewish and Christian use, "Devil, Satan" (scriptural loan-translation of Hebrew satan), in general use "accuser, slanderer," from diaballein "to slander, attack," literally "throw across," from dia-"across, through" + ballein "to throw". Jerome re-introduced Satan in Latin bibles, and English translators have used both in different measures.

In other words, “evil” was originally a secular Anglo-Saxon word having no religious connotation whatsoever, whereas the words “Satan” and “Devil” are purely religious terms, invented by the conceptors of religious dogma.

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