The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Moral values and religious doctrines > Comments

Moral values and religious doctrines : Comments

By Max Atkinson, published 28/3/2014

How does this debate and the ordinary, everyday values it draws on, relate to arguments which appeal to religious authority?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 11
  7. 12
  8. 13
  9. Page 14
  10. 15
  11. 16
  12. 17
  13. ...
  14. 31
  15. 32
  16. 33
  17. All
EXCELLENT SUMMATION..
what more left to say
but jesus/john//one came from a virgin/the other from A verY old high-priestess/conceived on the holiest day..but things happen[as the bible says..because its time was...so written.

thing i wanted to add was like the koran/the words were recalled
not written..then even the quaran//wrote first on any scraps of bark wood etc..scrolls..point being the stories were told[not made up]..and sure copnstantine/but he seems to have added the holy spirit[a true revealation]

but cant you see paul
the hand of spirits..in it all
how come you didnt begin at genesis/who first wrote that
[careless reading of your opening words could impress that your talking about the bible[speed reading cant beat comprehensive reading]

but anyhow great new test summation
but for paul saul and luke and constance
we wouldnt have had a clue even..of what may be true
or not..but able to be made true by doiing as paul imagined jesus doing.

more needs doing
http://rss.infowars.com/20140407_Mon_Alex.mp3
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:49:45 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Banjo Paterson,

It is simply appauling. Possibly, Paul was a homosexual who stayed in the closet. "It is better to marry than to burn." One can burn for one's spouse or anybody else and practice conflagratio. Paul's religion was masochristianity. Of course, it was a Roman exercise to play on or fight over words. The Punic Wars were a series of three wars fought between Rome and Carthage from 264 BC to 146 BC.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 10:14:18 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
.

Dear david f. & One Under God,

.

A psychoanalysis of Saul nearly 2000 years in hindsight is no easy task but there seems good reason to diagnose that he probably suffered from a chronic problem of a sexual nature.

As you suggest, David, he may have been “a homosexual who stayed in the closet” (I like your expression). It is also possible that he may have been sexually impotent. His case seems to have been particularly complex.

Whichever it was, the libidinal disorganisation of his body would certainly have generated a corresponding disorganisation of his way of thinking – of his world view, if you like. He seems to have developed a strong disposition for the death impulse and an equally strong detestation of the life impulse.

There are signs which may, perhaps, be interpreted as symptoms of hysterical neurosis and others which may, perhaps, be interpreted as symptoms of chronic psychotic illness.

The incident which reportedly occurred on the road to Damascus, which I referred to in my previous post as an “illumination”, may be diagnosed as a symptom of hysterical neurosis.

Acts 9 describes the incident:

[As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.
"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
The men travelling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.]

.

(Continued ...)

.
Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 2:45:31 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
.

(Continued ...)

.

A symptom of chronic psychotic illness is to be found in 1 Corinthians 15:8 in which Saul writes : “And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time” (King James Version).

Biblical scholars interpret this to mean :

[Verse 8. - "He was seen of me also". The reference undoubtedly is to the vision on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:5; Acts 22:14; Acts 26:16). As of one born out of due time; literally, as to the abortive born. The word means "the untimely fruit of a woman," a child born out of the due time or natural course; and hence "diminutive" and "weakly." The Greek ektroma is represented by the Latin abortivus. St. Paul, when he remembered the lateness of his conversion, and his past persecution of the saints, regards himself as standing in this relation to the twelve.]

In short, Saul sees himself as “an aborted foetus (who was given life)”.

His lugubrious appetite for pain and suffering of the flesh and his natural disposition for the death impulse, were, no doubt, instrumental in redirecting his destructive energies away from torturing the flesh of his own "detested" body, and from the persecution of Christians, to adoration of the cruelty of the interminably long and “excruciating”(to mime One Under God) crucifixion of Jesus and the glorious sense of exhilaration and sublimation it seems to have inspired him, Saul …

… and by ricochet, the 2.6 billion Christian population projected in the world for the year 2020, who continue to subscribe to the tenets and practices of Christian faith.

.
Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 2:55:15 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
BANJO..IM SURPRISED AT YOU
so little circumstantial speculation
to dismiss such a huge and influential work

what im now expected to ignore his many wisdom's
cause he was 'borne'..before his time..and because he claims he heard jesus/and was blind for 3 days..thats as bad as saying john the baptizer born of high priesthoods was mad for eating only honey/grasshoppers...[THERE IS REASONING/BEHIND EVERY BELIEF/AND MANY MISS BELIEFS]

when..you finally meet paul/you will regret//much we presumed
but that's why we got this life experience/to make us more humble

are you saying his witting [read by billions]
is irrelevant/by who he was[would banjo Patterson/be measured..by the same unfair/biased measure]..THE FUNNY THING IS..my minds eye is showing me..Saul/and banjo..sitting there..reading out the texts of their name sakes.

now its saul inspiring the writing for banjo
and banjo writing for paul...its quite hilarious the amusements your giving thyne name sakes..

what doth banjo Patterson write re morals and values?
did saul write more fiction..or more from experiences?

its the fine details we miss/from fine writings..such as you dismiss
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 7:44:32 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Banjo,

The Romans calmed the population with panem et circenses. In his masochristianity Paul substituted pain and circuity. His circuitry transformed human suffering into something glorious instead of the affliction that it is. His evil presence lingers centuries later.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:10:31 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 11
  7. 12
  8. 13
  9. Page 14
  10. 15
  11. 16
  12. 17
  13. ...
  14. 31
  15. 32
  16. 33
  17. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy