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Moral values and religious doctrines : Comments

By Max Atkinson, published 28/3/2014

How does this debate and the ordinary, everyday values it draws on, relate to arguments which appeal to religious authority?

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ITS FUNNY..HOW..folks know we live..in amazing times
like just a day ago..the queen of the common wealth/met with the pope
[7 th pope apparently..but the point is the father gave the ptince georges grandma..a lapis laxuri..orb..
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFDqqM_WMKfjx03n4Mecu03xAPewGwJ1n_dQHoa6n34KFPwQcmMuo4dFY

[and i been fact checking up on it]
what does the words say?
what is a sharp cross
it looks like malteaze/cross
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=+stone+orb+topped+with+a+sharp+cross

its has high..'sign'..signification..hrh may not know..
but doth phylum even know the meaning of the 3 coins.[orbs]?

anyhow/quote/link

<<>.For example, if we gaze on the Lapis Lazuli-orb of Gabriel, the Divine Messenger, a sacred oracle opens through the lineage of the wisdom traditions, and as though from God’s voice itself. This oracle moves us through the sands of time, to a far distant memory of the Atla Priests of Atlantis, through to the Ancient Egyptian Gods, then on to the Greek and Roman Gods and Goddesses. After a period of darkness, the line once more reappears through the light of Carl Jung’s extraordinary work, through the aspects of the 12 Archetypes he brought to our attention.

You will also see against the orb, a sacred sigil that contains, in geometric form, the essence of the Angel’s heart. Sigils are ancient mystical symbols that hold the force of an entity. In the second oracle the ANGEL HEART SIGULS, the Angels of Atlantis have given us powerful teaching about the heart as the seat of the soul.>>..

http://www.mindbodyspirit.co.uk/blog/the-angels-of-atlantis-stewart-pearce/

http://www.mindbodyspirit.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/AHS-Gabriel-708x1024.jpg

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/queen-gives-honey-to-pope-who-has-gift-for-prince-george-504197
Posted by one under god, Friday, 4 April 2014 6:27:00 PM
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Frying Pan's Theology :

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Scene : On Monaro.

Dramatis Personae :

Shock-headed blackfellow,
Boy (on a pony).
Snowflakes are falling
Gentle and slow,
Youngster says, "Frying Pan
What makes it snow?"

Frying Pan, confident,
Makes the reply --
"Shake 'im big flour bag
Up in the sky!"

"What! when there's miles of it?
Surely that's brag.
Who is there strong enough
Shake such a bag?"

"What parson tellin' you,
Ole Mister Dodd,
Tell you in Sunday-School?
Big feller God!

"Him drive 'im bullock dray,
Then thunder go;
Him shake 'im flour bag --
Tumble down snow!"

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 5 April 2014 1:08:57 AM
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Dear Banjo Paterson,

That's a variation on the Hindu epic. U pan I shed.

If I were to be pun-i-shed
For each pun I shed
I would not have a puny shed
In which to hide my punished head.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 5 April 2014 9:59:38 AM
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the snow dance..is A ritual,..often involving a dance of some sort,
http://www.snowjapan.com/the-japan-snow-dance
that is practiced with the idea
of increasing the chance of significant snowfall.

remembrance..of snow..Often pertains to the desire for a snow day to occur...in the snow expression..the point is dannced arround/by..[in this case clearly hunger saw flour

its Frequently used jokingly,..as a parody parental form..of need meeting/more faith than superstition.[the squeaky wheel gets the greece/silence signifies contentment.

but by speaking up
A: "I hope there's going to be..a snow day..[more flour]..flour-day tomorrow…"

B: "Yeah, I'll be doing my snow dance."

anyhow..lets see what banbjos snow [lour]..dance/reveals]

set/the scene..Boy (on a pony).
Snowflakes are falling
Gentle and slow,

Youngster says, "Frying Pan man
What makes it snow?"[ie flour]

Frying Pan, confidently,..Makes the reply --
"Shake 'im up..oh big big flour [snow]..bag
Up in the sky!"

boy.."What! when there's miles of it?
Surely that's brag.
Who is there strong enough
Shake such a bag?"

the fryer..doth reply.."What pastor [parson] tellin' you,
[Ole Mister Dodd,]
what he Tell you in Sunday-School?
its Big feller God!

"Him who drive 'im [sky-size]..floating bullock dray,
Then his thunder let go;
Him shake 'im his big ol flour bag --
and down Tumble more snow!"

lest we forget..these word images
project..each picture/image..into mind's eye
thus we see as we are meant..to see what we wish..to see

go ahead shake the flour dilly bag..back at me.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=snow+dance+edward+scissorhands&
http://www.snowjapanforums.com/sjimages/snowdance-5.gif
http://www.snowjapanforums.com/sjimages/snowdance-3.gif
http://www.snowjapanforums.com/sjimages/snowdance-2.gif
http://www.snowjapanforums.com/sjimages/snowdance-7.gif
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:06:46 AM
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authers pick
old kisser hands..the klutz..himself..appearing to be making an angel
its clear from the shots he is chainsawing to death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mg8SyAJfaw

Frying Pan's Theology :
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=pan's+labyrinth&
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan%27s_Labyrinth
.
the faun refuses to give Ofelia the third task.
Scene : On Monaro.

Dramatis Personae :
ex uno, plures. changing the sequence
of the words is no solution. E (or ex,
before a vowel) makes the noun go to the ablative

Shock-headed blackfellow,
Boy (on a pony)...

we know thats nonsense
but it dont feel right..just posting the tube link
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:25:44 AM
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Dear david f. & One Under God,

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Referring back to my previous post regarding the surrogate motherhood of Mary, inseminated by the Holy ghost in order to give birth to Jesus, you may wish to consider the "seminal" case of surrogate motherhood in the USA, known as “baby M”.

In the case of “baby M”, on appeal, the New Jersey supreme court “assumed” that the surrogacy agreement was declared void and found that the exchange of “money” for a child was “illegal, perhaps criminal and potentially degrading to women”.

Reviewed in the light of the case of “baby M”, it is debateable whether there was a surrogacy agreement or not between Mary and God. She does not appear to have been given any choice in the matter. It appears she was simply "informed" (warned?) by the angel Gabriel:

“The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God “. [Luke 1:35 (King James Version)].

If there was an agreement, it was purely verbal and, of course, cannot be proven as there were no witnesses.

It could, perhaps, be argued that there was a tacit agreement because at no point does Mary appear to protest or object in any way.

Whatever the case, the baby, Jesus, would be morally and legally the son of Mary and Joseph, not the son of God. Though the bible remains silent on this point, that is surely how the citizens of Bethlehem greeted Jesus and accepted him as a member of their community.

Here is the video :

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000002781402/baby-m-and-the-question-of-surrogacy.html?playlistId=100000002148738

Thank you, David for the Hindu "U pan I shed" poem. It just goes to show you that great minds think alike.

And thank you One Under God for that Japanese snow dance and Edward Scissorhand’s ice dance. I hear there has been some rather hot weather in Australia lately. Viewing those videos must be quite refreshing.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 7 April 2014 1:05:47 AM
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