You will have to elaborate for me, George.

<<I think you have correctly spelled out the reasons why it is pointless for me to argue with you...>>

I see no sign of an unwillingness or inability to accept or understand what you were saying. I merely pointed out that you are free to saying anything you may wish to say and that someone who is comfortable with their position (and able to defend it) shouldn't feel like they are being censored (thus an uneven barrage of criticism should not be a deterrent, if that's what you meant).

If I have misread anything you have said, then you simply need to clarify. I certainly don't have a history of not being able to understand what you're talking about. Except maybe when you are trying to describe the apophatic god that you believe in, but not even you understand what you mean in there, at least not beyond something that cannot be reduced to the physical, so I think we're even there anyway.

If I am ever wrong in my interpretation of what you say, then you simply need to clarify what you mean. But please don't belittle others by implying that the problem lies with them when no effort has been made on your part to explain yourself and no such problem has ever been demonstrated before. That's a bit rude.

It's also a bit rude to assume that one is out for an argument...

<<...especially since argument was not my intention in the first place.>>

There was nothing about my post to suggest that an argument was what I was looking for, and your assumption that an argument would be inevitable suggests an unwillingness on your behalf to entertain the possibility of changing your mind in any way.

The truth be know, I loathe arguing. I just value the truth more. So your insinuation that I am out looking for arguments is a little offensive, I'm afraid.

forgotten/post..continued..13 hours/later..oops..now/1 hour

<<.His life suddenly took..on a new dimension,..a new meaning, a new direction and a new mission.>>..jesus could have been operating him remotely..with HIGHER INSIGHT FOLLOWING HIS Transition

<<..Today’s Christianity is Saul’s legacy..to mankind...Instead of persecuting it,..he promoted it.>>

no he subverted IT
SCAPE-GOATING.WASNT A JESUS THING
HAVING HIMSELF BEFORE GOD..[NO WAY WAS THAT JESUS]
JESUS WAS SURE THE COMFORTER WOULD COME IN THEIR LIFE TIMES

<,the Christianity Saul bequeathed to us..clearly bears the mark of his personal stigma..>>

FOR SURE/BUT..I FEEL DIVINELY INSPIRED
by events

<<He glorified ignorance>>

ignorance..is bliss..knowing only involves much pain
and to then feel helpless..its better to not know..for many

<<this philosophy which found favor>>

thats sort of the idea/we have to survive..cause jesus is comming back[but he was offered/these realms/by satan himself/and refused
he said..a comforter comes...not him?

<<..I should like to feel..that we are all free..to chose..>>

that would be great/but so many children DIE young
i would rather they believe in god/till they decide themselves..

<<..I, personally,..was not given the choice.>>
those times were hard.mother wanted you to be safe
you in the end..didn't hurt yourself.mum knows that's cause she did what she did

forgive me for mentioning..it..but if they had fied.,,by horrible chance..would the lack OF BAPTISM..HAVE WORRIED..YOU/I KNOW IT WORKED OUT FINE..but still kids die..i would rather they knew god will welcome them home personally.

its harmless..for kids/you turned out fine
i began/where you are now/i knew there was no god
then one day..i couldn't deny it...and had to learn from scratch
thats where your daughters will go one day..[kids arnt like their pa Rents/PARENTS ARE ALWAYS WRONG.]

kids know best..just/ASk..them.

Aj Philips,

>>So your insinuation that I am out looking for arguments is a little offensive<<

Sorry for making you feel offended. I concede that you are not out looking for arguments. Neither am I, and this is a good reason or us to stop.

George,

Thanks for the apology and the concession. Though I would have preferred that you acknowledge the problems and oversights with your comparison between criticism levied at Paul and criticism levied at Dawkins, I’m happy enough to leave it at that. Sometimes silence is the best acknowledgment we can hope for.

AJ/QuOTE..<<..I certainly don't have a history..of not being able to understand..what you're talking about...Except maybe when you are trying to describe the apophatic god..>>

damm people..talking in tongues
WHY USE CODE WORD ODE*
why talk in exclusive non speak?

<<apophatic god>>...In negative theology, ?

<<it is accepted that experience of the Divine is ineffable?>>..wtf?

IM SEEING THE HAND..OF THE GREAT CON-FUSER..
<<..What is the differencebetween apophatic and cataphatic theology? ... Answer:..Apophatic (or negative) theology is an attempt to describe God by what cannot be>>

AS I THOUGHT..ITS ATHEIST muddied thinking
HEISTING THE GOD Concept ..into ABSuRDiUM
dumber down addendum..its sad these great giants are respecting each others wordy/codeword/waffle

and not standing up..for a concept ya dont need to hide behind a clever absurd satanic wurd..bah..boo..[that's the best you can do/../be nice?]..these demons are only repelled by act..not word.

clearly atheists win..the godless deniers
have simplified it down to nothing god created VALIDATES HIM

TAKE THE CREATION AWAY..YA KILL THE CREATOR..IGNORE HIS CREATION..IGNORE LOVE/GRACE.Mercy..

oops..missed a bit..of the quote.
RE/THE APE-GOD..<<..that you believe in,.but not even you understand>>

TO BE FAIR..god being the sun..was likely wrote..in code

<<..what you mean in there,..at least not beyond something that cannot be reduced to the physical,..>>

the sdun being god is purely his physical manifestation
in spirit..he looks more amazing..but you will never know

<<>>so I think we're even there anyway.>>

yeah me too
no hard feelings
god doth the solar sun thing
jesus doth the earthy earthly things
and holy spirit lords it over all* the fallen suns

win/win..lets forgo../the\..code-wurd..spin

Dear Banjo,

Yes, I presume I would find your version of criticism/disparagement more palatable although I am afraid it still does trespass against the quoted above reminder by Herbert Butterfield that “all our judgments (e.g. about Paul’s ‘attitude towards sexuality’ and what today can be seen as his ‘intolerance’) are merely relative to time and circumstance”. And against his warning that “the study of the past with one eye upon the present is the source of all sins and sophistries in history”.