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Palestine: Obama lacks understanding and vision : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/3/2014

Clearly, in Eastern and Western Palestine, there are only two peoples, the Arabs and the Jews. Just as clearly, there are only two states in that area, Jordan and Israel.

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A bit reductionist to argue that there are only two peoples in the Israel/Jordan area. No Christians? No Druze? No Egyptians?
Ditto for only two states. No Syria? No Egypt? No Lebanon?
For the sake of argument I can let that pass, and I also definitely agree that it is well past time to drop the myth of a "two state" solution. Declare the border between Israel and Jordan to be along the Jordan river, splitting the Dead Sea between the two, then split the Sea of Galilee likewise and continue south along the old established border to the Red Sea.
Then allow the established practice of granting full right-of-return to all those displaced by the wars since 1948, declare Israel to be a democracy of one person, one vote, and all rights of citizenship to be fully equal for all parties.
This would mean equal access to infrastructure such as to all roads, and to all water.
And while we're dreaming, come on down out of the Golan and quit pinching land off Syria.
So doable. Only Israel stands in the way of peace in the Middle East.
Posted by halduell, Thursday, 13 March 2014 9:25:26 AM
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I could be wrong but I think you do not understand the big picture.

You say Obama like he is BOSS it would be more apt to say whoever is pulling the strings of the puppet.

Also what a reasonable thinking person wants is more than likely NOT what the puppet masters want they have there own agenda and it does not include you and me.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 13 March 2014 10:26:00 AM
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I read again this Zionist propaganda with some incredulity.

Is it true your Prime Minister Netanyahu would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 13 March 2014 1:31:14 PM
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"Jordan's King Abdullah needs to step up to the plate - and Obama must not let him refuse to do so."

Better invoke Putin - he's a greater bully, his troops are better ready than Obama's and he knows better what to do if Kiev tries to serve the wishes of the Ukrainian people instead of the interests of Russia.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 March 2014 3:40:42 PM
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Get real Yuyutsu. Those thugs in Kiev overthrew an elected government. Have you no shame?
Posted by halduell, Thursday, 13 March 2014 4:00:52 PM
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Dear Halduell,

Perhaps we just found an even more effective solution - maybe Singer should appoint YOU to force Jordan into submission to Israel's interests against its very own.

Anyone who succeeds in forcing 3 million Jordanians, a poor nation living in one of the most arid and resource-less countries, to accept a hostile extra population of 4 million or so, can surely also "convince" Abbott to accept 30 million Afghan refugees.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 March 2014 4:39:49 PM
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Yuyutsu - Just what we need more of these people.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/21927480/gangs-accused-of-preying-on-sta...

Victorian gangs are being accused of grooming children in care that are as young as 12 into prostitution.

Veteran child protection workers have said sexual exploitation of state wards was "endemic" and they were powerless to protect children in their care.

It is alleged older teens groom youngsters on behalf of predators in return for money and drugs, News Limited reports.

Police have set up a taskforce to investigate a gang of Afghans in Dandenong suspected of preying on teens in care.

Senior child protection workers have told News Limited the gang has sexually abused girls in care in Dandenong, Shepparton and Melbourne's west.

In a statement, Victoria Police said it worked closely with the Department of Human Services to prevent children in protection from being sexually exploited.

Since September 2012 a collaborative approach was established to respond to incidences of sexual exploitation and to train people who work with at risk adolescents.

"Since then there have been several successful investigations with offenders sentenced for child exploitation offences. There are a number of ongoing operations," the statement said.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 13 March 2014 5:26:00 PM
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Exactly Philip,

Now you understand how much Jordanians "like" to have the Palestinians and their cursed territories be part of their own country.

But Singer wants to force them into it, even suggesting that Obama should do it on Israel's behalf.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 March 2014 5:34:02 PM
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And JUST when Netanyahu needed political cover for the murder of six Palestinians (and the Jordanian judge), the attempt to wreck the peasce talks with Palestine, the ongoing effort to ignite war in Iran, and the seizure of another aid ship in international waters!
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Barrage-of-rockets-fired-from-Gaza-into-southern-Israel-345151
Iron Dome got 3 of the 55 incoming rockets? That does not sound like a success, but Congress just sent Israel another $400 million of your tax dollars to buy more of the same.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/12/5500246/gonorrhea-is-about-to-become-impossible-to-treat
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2014/03/11/guest-post-god-is-done-with-you-pensacola-christian-college-and-sexual-violence/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/an-afro-american-relives-segregation-on-a-visit-to-israelpalestine/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/psalm-83-israeli-idf-fighter-jets-bombed-29-islamic-jihad-targets-in-the-gaza-strip-mar-13-2014/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/13/al-aqsa-vs-israel/
Posted by one under god, Friday, 14 March 2014 11:01:14 AM
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d Dump the Israelis Tomorrow –Ex-CIA Michael Scheuer Tells Congress
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/10/26/229200-id-dump-the-israelis-tomorrow-ex-cia-michael-scheuer-tells-congress/

Regarding American support for Israel’s wars..American people should be permitted to discuss and make that decision,..and they should understand that there are costs associated with US commitment to Israel —cost in US lives and treasure, Scheuer said.

He continued :We are bankrupt,..Mr. King.
We have lost two wars,..Mr. King.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/debunksaudis.php

Debunking the "The Saudis did 9-11" nonsense!

And finally, here is some common sense that totally undermines the attempt to frame Saudi Arabia for 9-11. If Saudi Arabia really wanted to hurt the United States, they don't need to fly airplanes into skyscrapers to do it. All they have to do is ask for their money back, all at once. The resulting damage to the US financial system would make 9-11 look like a minor inconvenience in comparison.

And it would be perfectly legal for Saudi Arabia to ask for their money back.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/gareth-porter-the-permanent-war-state/

Right now the official story of 9-11 has crashed as badly a healthcare.gov. The American people are looking at the US Government and Israel with a great deal of suspicion. So, under the principle that if at first you don't succeed, lie, lie again, the perpetrators of 9-11 are crafting a new lie to replace the old one.

The new lie takes the form of a supposedly secret report on 9-11 which Representatives Stephen F. Lynch and Walter B. Jones are demanding be made public. This report is claimed to place the blame for 9-11 entirely on Saudi Arabia; a clear attempt at a frame-up to protect the guilty by transferring the blame to a convenient but innocent target.

But the claim makes no sense...Saudi/Arabia would not risk the loss of the billions of dollars..they have invested in the US with such a stunt...And as I point out in the excerpt above, Saudi Arabia does not need to crash planes into buildings..to harm the United States, but could quite legally destroy..the nation simply by asking for all their money back..at once.

http://intellihub.com/malaysian-airliner-may-commandeered-taken-secret-coco-island-base-new-info-reveals-plane-flew-4-hours-transponder-deactivated/

ITS INSANE
http://rt.com/news/israel-jordan-judge-killing-146/
http://bit.ly/1qydPDc

PLEASE/SEE..the-land..MAKES YOU SIC
http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/03/new-harvard-study-says-chemicals-cause.html
MORE*
\911/

http://on.fb.me/1lXucIB
http://bit.ly/1lxXaMd
Posted by one under god, Friday, 14 March 2014 11:23:38 AM
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http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/03/the-unstable-alliance-of-nationalists-and-mainly-jewish-oligarchs-in-the-ukraine/
This much said,..`one must surely ask..why it is that the Jewish community..is supporting the neo-Nazis rise.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/podcasts/hourtitle2.m3u

Why is it that the presence of Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers who led rebel groups has not been questioned and addressed? Furthermore, why have Jewish leaders voiced support for the coup and its leaders?
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/03/14/ukraine-americas-midas-touch-again/
Mrs. Van Hyning,..I am surprised at your surprise...You are a student of history --..and you know that both the Borgias and the Mediciis are Jewish families of Italy.

Surely you know that there have been Popes from both of these house. Perhaps it will surprise you to know that we have had 20 Jewish Popes, and when you have sufficient time, which may coincide with my free time, I can show you these names and dates. You will learn from these that..:..The crimes committed in the name of the Catholic Church were under Jewish Popes. The leaders of the inquisition was one : De Torquemada, a Jew." -- From an article in 'Woman's Voice', November 25, 1953.

AND..HERE IS MY..LATEST/PEACE-PLAN
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16038&page=0

TO PREVENT..the fact/red/FLAG..OF Could Diego Garcia..have been the target of a terrorist plot....when..the Poop hITS/THE FAN..using this plane?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Could you imagine..a US naval base..having to choose whether to shoot down a fully-loaded civilian airliner..out of the sky?...There was a lot of discussion about how there were no “rich targets” in that area.

Diego Garcia...is one such...rich target.[PEAL HARBOUR..]
http://rss.infowars.com/20140314_Fri_Alex.mp3
The honest man must be a perpetual renegade, the life of an honest man a perpetual infidelity...For the man who wishes to remain faithful to truth must make himself perpetually unfaithful to all the continual, successive, indefatigable renascent errors." -- Charles Peguy
http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=20011
The rapid growth of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement is a direct result of Western politicians like Cameron and Hague flunking their duty to uphold international law, reject Israel's exceptionalism and punish its crimes. BDS will no doubt apply the solvent to unglue Cameron's unholy alliance. It will increasingly hurt the evil regime and those who support it. And it will be their funeral.
http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=20022
http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/Multilingual/english/War-on-15-March.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl2zeCKVSlQ
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 15 March 2014 11:58:40 AM
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