aj/quote..<<..There..is nothing..to suggest.that life..cannot come from..on-life;>>

eleven../Wonderful words..THAT has taken..maNY MORE WORDS TO REFUTE
[IGNORED]..[SCIENCE..IS ON MY SIDE..TRUE SCIENCE..CAN TESTIFY..IN ANY COURT...THAT LIFE COMES FROM LIFE

[ITS SO LOGICAL]..YET..YOU CAN THRow out..an 11 WORD SENTANCE
[ON TOP OF..'s A RABID CREATIONIST HATERS/VIDIO....AND..MIND/CLOSED/CASE CLOSED

PLEASE../DO US BOTH..A FAVOR/..PUT INTO A POST..WHAT SPECIFIC CHEMICALS..you/claim..DUN WHAt

[you know..resent proof,,of thesus
[which..by beiNG..*SCIENCE MUST BE..REPLICABLE..FACT

BUT YOU..[IF your..honest]..yOU/know..its not true
yet yoU..Know..too..i CANT..dis-PROVE IT/either
WELL PJ..WITHOUT proof..ya GOT A FAITH..IN
A FAUX-THEORy..but..ITS/not science
then/INVERT/WHAT..YA JUST SAID.

<<..only that...complex life forms..cannot..spring from inanimate objects.>>

oh holy heck/ya..just unconditionally..SAID SOMETHING[NOW YA CONDITION..IT..that life..cannot spring from INANIMATE objects..golly-gosh..no kidden?.[TOO CLEver]

<<>But no-one..has ever suggested..that they could,>>

YOU JUST DID

<<..as your attempts...to make abiogenesis..appear absurd..would have us believe.>>..OTS..TOO/SILLY/FANCIFUL..TO BE FACTualy trUE.

now..your saying..the opposite/AGAIN..[life from non life]..ITS BECOMING SCHIZO

NOW..YOUR PROVING..What?
<<..I..even linked you..to a video..explaining/one of..the hypotheses>>..

yea/but..you claim..'science'..ir proof/but you got..some huys half thesus...[in spoken word/look/

*write..a transcript..anD EVEN..YOU WILL SEE.THE ERRORS[TWENTY STEPS TO MAKE ..LIFE NEED BE MET//[HE AT BEST PRESENTED 6..and YOU DONT DO ANY BETTER]..TILL YOU SAY..SPECIFICLU..THIS PLUS..THAT..[specifically]..and in writing..you got nOTHING/BUT CLEVER WORDS AND A TRICKERY VIDIO

<<..regarding how/this..*may be/lol/possible,..but..you refused to address..any of the..points made.>>[ITS NONSENSE]

HOW ABOUT..YOU LIST THEM/'POINTS'..[in full..including the insults]..and we beGIN..FROM THAT YOU*..PUT into writing?

you know..you do soMETHING
TO PROVE..YA/own..THEORY/..not throw...it all back on me/while you flee freE..[YOUR THE One...that sayS LIFE FROM NOTHING..OR LIFE FROM SOMETHING..[BUT MY PROVABLE..THESUS IS LIFE..FROM Life]..NO LIE

till some..cleve/[persoN DOES IT..IN REAL/LIFE..ITS A THEORY

pUre fantasy..LIVE WITH IT

<<PIG HYBRED…is..utter rubbish. >.

FINE..APES breeding human..prove it/
but..no..thats..another/theory.

theN..PLEASE/Explain..why the pig dna..?

i used..to believe..hybred/sterility..TOO/USED..IT MYSELF..IN MANY DEBATES/..UNTIL I SAW..THE PROOF/YOU CLEARLY CHOSE/TO ignore]

<<..It is impossible..for two different..species to breed>

REFUTED..MANY LINks ago
and this..is yet another..failed prediction of evolution,

<<..sterile offspring>>..WAS REFUTED IN HIS BOOK
..
OH..YOU MISSED THAT TOO?

You're not fairing too well here, are you OUG.

<<eleven../Wonderful words..THAT has taken..maNY MORE WORDS TO REFUTE>>

Well, how about you try a few words of rebuttal to start with. So far you have provided nothing. About the best you’ve done is to state that “ITS [sic] SO LOGICAL”.

<<PLEASE../DO US BOTH..A FAVOR/..PUT INTO A POST..WHAT SPECIFIC CHEMICALS..you/claim..DUN WHAt>>

Here’s a few hypotheses to keep you amused for a while:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/originoflife.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis.

<<*SCIENCE MUST BE..REPLICABLE..FACT>>

For a long time nuclear fusion wasn't replicable even though scientists knew how it occurred in nature. That didn't mean that it wasn't science back then.

<<oh holy heck/ya..just unconditionally..SAID SOMETHING[NOW YA CONDITION..IT..that life..cannot spring from INANIMATE objects..golly-gosh..no kidden?.[TOO CLEver]>>

The condition was “complex [life]”, not “inanimate”. Yet you dropped the “complex” bit. The unconditional nature of my other statement is totally irrelevant.

I don’t know if you’re being deceitful or just having difficulties keeping up here.

<<YOU JUST DID [suggest that complex life could spring from inanimate objects]>>

See the confusion you cause yourself when you interpret others the way you please? I suggested no such thing.

<<*write..a transcript..anD EVEN..YOU WILL SEE.THE ERRORS[TWENTY STEPS TO MAKE ..LIFE NEED BE MET//[HE AT BEST PRESENTED 6..and YOU DONT DO ANY BETTER]..TILL YOU SAY..SPECIFICLU..THIS PLUS..THAT..[specifically]..and in writing..you got nOTHING/BUT CLEVER WORDS AND A TRICKERY VIDIO>>

What are these 20 steps you speak of?

<<HOW ABOUT..YOU LIST THEM/'POINTS'..[in full..including the insults]..and we beGIN..FROM THAT YOU*..PUT into writing?>>

Why request such a thing? So you can use up my word count? How about you just number the points in the video or pick some at random?

<<FINE..APES breeding human..prove it/>>

Scientists already have with DNA, mitochondrial DNA, chromosome fusion, the fossil record. By the way, we’re still apes.

<<theN..PLEASE/Explain..why the pig dna..?>>

Probably for the same reason we share 50% of our genes with bananas.

As for you claims regarding hybrids and sterility, I’d like to see your evidence for this that I allegedly chose to ignore. Especially considering mules, ligers, etc. always seem to be sterile.

reply..to..aj/from..post/here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16038&page=0

You're..not fairing..too well..AJ
BATTING ZIP

aj..replied..<<..Here’s.a few.hypotheses>>..RE ABIOGENSUS

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/originoflife.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis.

FAIR Enough/..i..only need..one..
To refute..all..you said

see item..9/..link..1
<<..plausible scenarios>>...ie not any proof/just theories.

then/go2..LINE1
<<..Even the simplest..currently living..cells..contain hundreds of proteins..most of which are essential..to their functioning.>>

THEN YOU..GRASPED AT STraws..<<..nuclear\fusion>>..

MY REPLY..IS..THAT STUDIES..KNOWN PHENOMENA
UNLIKE/THE SPECULATIONS....RE/FIRST..*LIE..[liFe..from non life..]

<<..What...are these..20 steps..you speak of?>>

Quote..final/lines..point 1

<<...The likely*..most accurate..hypothetical study..(Gil et al. 2004..puts the minimal..number of genes at 206...[wink]..All the proteins..produced from these genes..are involved..in a maze of pathways of metabolism,...replication,..as well as building and maintenance of structure,/..which is..of bewildering complexity.>>..

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=20+steps+to+liviNg+cell+life&i

[then/there..of course..is thE..SMALL-MATTER..of..a cell-membrain.

..<<In fact..how else/than through..such a..minimum amount..of complexity, could even..a primitive/cell...have met..the just mentioned..basic demands?..How could..such a.*vastly complex network..of more than..*200 proteins..have arisen by itself?..>.//

your/OWN-link..denies YOU...MINE/Replies

APES breeding human..prove it/..its/YOUR..PROOF?

in your opinion..[biased/opinion]....
<<..Scientists already..have with DNA,..mitochondrial DNA,..>>

YEAH THE..DNA/we share too..with a bannana
[if i..cant use..that crap/..you..cant EITHER

APART..FROM THAT..WHAT/YA GOT?

<<..chromosome*fusion,>>..lol
see previous/posts..re short STANDS..FAVOURD

fusion..lol..*prove it

rubbish...re the..<<fossil-record..>>..prove it

By the way,..yoU’re..still ALL PURE-ape..to me
,,so/go..get an ape/HEART-VALVE..LOL..

[THINK]....WHY YOU/GET..THEM..FROM A PiG?]

AJ.<<..Probably..for/the same
reason..we share..50% of..our genes..with bananas.>>..

THAt..didnt work..for me/nor you

do TRY..Again

<<>.As for you/claims..regarding hybrids..and sterility>>

ok..i will yet again../DO YOUR THINKING
FOR YOU..

its pathetic..but..i will be..the..bigger guy.

man is king..of the beasts/..
WE ARE HERE..ONLY..because ape...raped a pig..[LIVE With it]..it began proper/here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16038&page=0

AND BECAUSE I RESPECT/..YOUR TIME..and unlike..thy good/selF DONT LIKE OTHERS..*WASTING THEIR TIME/EITHER..[]IT SORT/OF BEGAN..Tuesday, 25 February]..with me scrEWING..YA APE THEORY/..before finding the pig hybrid...THEO-WRY]

if you..could KEEP COMMENT..ON THAT/TOPIC..THERE
THAT Gives me..4..more posts to/properly reply YOUR ASPERSIONS/there

know..THAT GRAN-MA EVE..was a sow...or lucies hubby..[YOUR's..and/MINe..great/great/grand-PAPPY..was a boar...

LIVE WITH IT/YA CANT escape..what we are
SUCK IT UP..LIKE A MAN../or\..LIKE LUCY HAD TO.`

NAME..THE NON-LIFE..THAT BECAME A..proto-CELL
ya got nuthin...but..hERE IS MORE..options..4/ya.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5899&page=3

EVen more
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=38

TRY TO BE FAIR..MOVE..SOME COMMENT HERE
[like creationist insults]..here/PLEASE
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=0

OUG,

I'm not jumping around from thread to thread chasing your replies as you breach multiple forum rules with every response.

<<i..only need..one..[abiogenesis hypothesis] To refute..all..you said ... see not any proof/just theories.

Maybe not "proof" as such. There is, however, a lot of evidence. Please see the video I linked you to.

<<Even the simplest..currently living..cells..contain hundreds of proteins..most of which are essential..to their functioning.>>

Yes, the key words there being "currently living". This proves nothing. I refer you once again to the video you won't address.

<<MY REPLY..IS..THAT STUDIES..KNOWN PHENOMENA
UNLIKE/THE SPECULATIONS....RE/FIRST..*LIE..[liFe..from non life..]>>

The video I linked you to also discusses known phenomena.

As for these 20 steps to life, I saw nothing in the Google search you provided, nor in the numerous searches I tried.

<<[then/there..of course..is thE..SMALL-MATTER..of..a cell-membrain.>>

What's to say early cells had or needed a membrane?

<<In fact..how else/than through..such a..minimum amount..of complexity, could even..a primitive/cell...have met..the just mentioned..basic demands?..How could..such a.*vastly complex network..of more than..*200 proteins..have arisen by itself?..>>

Please see the links I've provided so far.

<<your/OWN-link..denies YOU...MINE/Replies>>

Arguments from incredulity and the downplaying of what I link to by implying incorrectly that they're filled with guesses are not valid responses. You have not yet provided a response that isn't either fallacious or irrelevant.

Regarding your early-apes-to-humans rebuttals, it looks like we may need to start from a more elementary scientific level. So here's another short video for you called Human Evolution Made Easy... http://youtube.com/watch?v=MCayG4IIOEQ&list=PL82yk73N8eoX8RpvQfjdupAKFWKjtMhTe

As for the sterility of hybrids, your argument seems to rest on the pig-ape-hybrid claim; a claim that has been thoroughly debunked. It's ironic that you'll reject evolution but accept such nonsense. Does that mean that Adam and Eve were an ape and a pig? How does this ape-pig-hybrid hypothesis fit into your biblical creation story? That is the whole reason you reject evolution, after all.

Looks like creationists have pulled their 'DMCA claim' trick once again (funny how heavily they rely on censorship - as they do with their YouTube vote bots). This link should work... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93e_1220021831

my/noteS
FROM YA IGNORANT 9 MINUTE TIMEWASTING VIDIO

''DRAGON GODESS RAVEN GODS..THEN..darwin/who wrote evolution of species[not evolution into new genus]..nor ape evolution into

the prat is still prateling unearther human..arcic ancestors homid erectus /peking man..none are missing link..now aftrika..dont fit with southern england..pit down man the anomoly/fraud/hoax..yet it caused two schols of thought..out of afrika

mother load of fossils..music music music

as they fash a lot of pictures of PLASTER SKULL

MATE PUT IT IN YA OWN WORDS
YOUR A TIME WASTER

RICH FAMILY TREE..BLAH BLAH HOMID FOSSILS GOT NO DNA
ASNY STORY THEY TELL IS BASED ON LOOKs like not genes evolving

wehat species are these apes/they wernt human either

WHY DO WE SEE A CLEAR PROGRESSIOn in time

never se species diSSAPPEARING /TRUE IN SOME CASES BUT NOT ALL TWO LEGS THUMBS BLAH BLAH..7 MINUTES IN
WE COULDNT HAVE EVOLVED UNLESS TWO fused
if we dont find it
gues what its chomosame number two

great ape 19..B;LAH BLAH..BAH

COMPLETLY DIFFERENT FROM ANY TYPE OF HUMAN..NEANDERTHAL Mitro condial dna

screw YOU MAN
APEman..YOU Full of sshH IT

I WISH YOU COULD EIOTHER WRITe
or read/these vidios got you hypnotoiseD

NOTHING IN dna refutes fossil..lol..no dna in stone you fw