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Thinking Christians spurn hammy creationism : Comments
By Chris Middleton, published 19/2/2014It is important that a minority view within Christianity is not allowed to frame a false dichotomy between religion and science.
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Oh my god!
Posted by Ponder, Friday, 21 February 2014 11:31:19 AM
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Hi George,
What I have in mind by a 'flat contradiction' is, for instance, the contrast between the method of curing leprosy set out in Leviticus 14:2-7 and that set out here: http://www.wikihow.com/Cure-Leprosy. My 'naive understanding' is that if a book allegedly inspired by divine revelation sets out a way of curing leprosy that doesn't work, that calls the rest of its contents into question, and unless you or someone else can demonstrate how to tell the parts that are simply wrong (like the bit about curing leprosy) from the parts you believe are correct, there is simply no reason for any rational person to believe a single word of it. Posted by Jon J, Friday, 21 February 2014 4:52:18 PM
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jon.j..interesting link
<<>..Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease, is a chronic bacterial skin infection caused by Mycobacterium leprae or the more recently discovered Mycobacterium lepromatosis>>>... so as far as i can see/from your info..its a bacteria and hemp anointing oil is a killer of..bacteria http://www.google.com.au/search?q=hemp+oil+kills+bacteria& you may carefully note the timming..of the footwashing rite to a time where bacteria runs rife we must not forget too..that jesus cured it..RESEARCH WOULD reveal how one that i seem to rECALL WAS A GUY SAID HE HAS LEPROCY..[any skin blemish was at the time called lePROCY..]..AND HAVING 'LEPROCY'..WAS REASON FOR EXCLUSION.. jesus was AUTHORITY..SAYING THATS NOT LEPROSY..HE AND JOHN WERE TRAINED BY THE ESSENE's..knew his stuff. FURTHER..most of the law/leviexodus etc..WAS WROTE..ON THE RUN ie while wandering in the desert..because..6 out of the 8 made UP FABLES..anyhow in the desert..is the time..[now how does the bible say..tO CURE IT..[isolation/cast out?] bacteria can be passed on by being 'dirty'/unclean..[cause its a bacteria..[hempen oil..was known to issiah/smoking flax he refused to quench[hemp wax made the candles..plus the wick/plus the VESTMENTS AND THE HOLY OIL its the design of the burning bush..mosus 'saw'..on the mount [exoDUS..25;40..[ITS ALSO THe tree of life[..revelation..22;2] the leaves of the tree are for the healings of nations[google wikiseed/wikigeld] its fruits are/not..12[one in each season]..but 38,000..last time it was checked.. http://eprints.qut.edu.au/15949/1/John_Jiggens_Thesis.pdf also READ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.pdf THE BURNING BUSH..DESIGN IS THE JEWISH menorah this bush was re found growing on the hunter river by hippies in the 60.'[as john explains well] he dont know that the hunter was joined to the namoe river[namoi[speled properway/means river of life this was all explained in swedenborgs acania celestia[but the last three chapers were stolen/by those wanting to acces THE RIVER OF LIFE Posted by one under god, Friday, 21 February 2014 5:48:43 PM
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.pdf
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i been watCHING HOPING FOR MORE DETAIL
Herman Cummings/wroTE/quote..<<..Why is it that all evolutionists run from the Genesis Expert, and spend their time debating those that don't understand the Genesis text? The correct opposing view to evolution, is the "Observations of Moses' Avoiding a true confrontation with the Bible proves humanists have an evil agenda, and want to mislead the public into their false belief system.>> HI HERMAN..COULD..you please give more DETAIL? I TRIED sending you email/but the aol bounced immediatly OR DO YOU PLAN..to post again? What you said sounds of interest anyhow cheers from..JOHANNINE. Posted by one under god, Saturday, 22 February 2014 6:32:23 AM
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Pericles,
>>in the case of the various religions, unlike gravity, their complexity is entirely manufactured by their acolytes and adherents<< This is a misunderstanding: whatever I said was referring to the cultural phenomenon of religion - studied by anthropologists, psychologists, sociologists, philosophers (theist or atheist) - not to “various religions”. Even so, I am not an anthropologist, but I think what e.g. Clifford Geertz had to say about, say, “primitive” religions was nothing their “adherents” would have understood, not to say "manufacture". However I agree that those scholars I mentioned above don’t have much to say about gravity unless they understand also physics, the same as a physicist doesn’t have much to say about the phenomenon of religion, unless he understands religion as studied by the disciplines I listed above. >> I'm not sure you should be trumpeting his philosophy, though.<< I don’t think quoting from Wikipedia means trumpeting anything. I indicated my opinion of his kind of “apology” by referring to his showdown with Krauss as entertainment and fun. For the rest of your remarks, I just have a more respectful opinion of scholars in the fields I listed above, even if I am an expert in none of them. >> Whereas both you and I can experience gravity without understanding it, only you can indulge in religious speculation<< I am sure you have experienced - positively or negatively - not only the effect of gravity on falling objects but also of religion on human beings. All scholarly activity - whether the object is gravity or religion - starts with “speculation” before it can be presented as a well organised and justified contribution to our understanding of the world outside or inside of us. I agree that certain kinds of speculations require certain inside knowledge. For instance, those who want to indulge in contemporary speculations about the nature of the physical world need some mathematical literacy. Similarly with speculations on more general philosophical topics, although here the necessary insider knowledge or literacy is of a different nature. Posted by George, Saturday, 22 February 2014 9:34:01 AM
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