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Thinking Christians spurn hammy creationism : Comments
By Chris Middleton, published 19/2/2014It is important that a minority view within Christianity is not allowed to frame a false dichotomy between religion and science.
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Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 6 March 2014 1:37:35 PM
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IM GLAD WERE BOTH SMILING..i had hoped for some..sharper thought/though
tosummise todays thought flow..reif found that LIVING PLANT MATTER..WAS ABLE TO BECOME..amoeba like BION. I WAS HOPING THAT SOME WOULD DECLARE THAT AS REFUTING MY god thesus [as my SPIRITS HAD ALREADY PUT TO ME..THAT vegetative PLANT LIFE..[flora/fixture]INTO ..living cellular life[amoeba LIKE BIONS]..YET WAS LIFE INTO LIFE. MY EXPECTATION..THEN NOTED THAT IRON FILINGS AND SAND [FOR EXAMPLE]..ALSO CREATE.,.BIONS..[BUT BIONS CONCEPT HAs..frighted many..AND ITS MORE TO THE WHY WHEREFORE OF THAT..I THOUGHT TO POST IT. ANYHOW..your correct re rEICHE.. it seems he was right INTO ALL THAT sex stuff..and the similitude with loki also stands clear...but heck the guides guide us INTO whatever entry TO HIGHER GNOSIS they can. re the orgone gas..[aether]..Another observable fact also lends support to the above theory. The outlet from the Car Cell is connected to a blind fitting or blank plug on the carburetor housing. This means that there is no opening through this fitting into the interior of the carburetor or the interior of the intake manifold. Yes, you are reading that statement correctly. There is NO physical opening between the output of the Energy Cell and the interior of the engine. Yet the cell works! Logic dictates that the gas must be passing THROUGH the metal of the carb housing to reach the interior of the engine. Since hydrogen is the lightest element of all (with only one proton), it doesn't seem too far fetched to assume that this might be occurring. Wilhelm Reich also noted that orgone is not hindered by metal barriers, but is first attracted to and then repelled by metal surfaces...NO WONDER SCIENCE dont want..TO GO THERE. ANYHOW..[MORE STRANGE]..USING YOUR LINK..I COULD NOT ACCES THE SITE..[thus repost] http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fejoewatercell.shtml Posted by one under god, Thursday, 6 March 2014 3:18:31 PM
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Here you go OUG... I remember you introduced this a few years ago (and thought it then an unlikely power source coming any time soon), but don't let my faith it is a con dissuade you:
http://www.moe-joe-working.com/Moe-Joe-Cell/Moe-Joe-Cell-Store/cartlist.php Let us know the results of your experiments. Just be forewarned that there is no product performance or money-back guarantee on the devices. If results are less than expected you can, conveniently, use the cell to feel better about it all... http://www.moe-joe-working.com/Moe-Joe-Cell/moe_joe_cell_healing.html Of course to be really impressive the modified cars wouldn't require batteries or petrol/diesel would they? Besides which orgone energy would be unsafe as drivers should keep both hands on the steering wheel. [PS: Pericles, re ""Wilhelm Reich, a titan among 20th century scientists..." don't you agree that the 'scientist' bit is unfounded and the 'an' in titan is redundant?] Posted by WmTrevor, Thursday, 6 March 2014 4:46:18 PM
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``ANYHOW..HAVING SHOWN HOW TO MAKE AMOEBA..FROM,,PLANT matter and even sand..i thought how life came from ZERO..INTO PLANT
watching pbs they said it was photoplancton I REKON BEFORE MULTICELL..YOU NEED A CELL[under the same principle as life from life first have a living cell]..but seems im the only one caring but as usual the science confounds http://www.google.com.au/search?q=PBS+PHOTOPLANCTON+LIFE+ORIGEN The First Animal For the first time ever, scientists believe they have gathered substantial evidence that points to a single animal group of creatures that gave rise to all animals, including humans. Researchers such as Cristina Diaz and Mitch Sogin think that the most likely candidate for this "Animal Eve" is a group of creatures that still exist: the sponges. Sponges, members of the phylum Porifera, are considered the oldest living animal phylum. The name Porifera means "pore bearer" in Latin. Sponges are the only animals that if broken down to the level of their cells can miraculously reassemble and resurrect themselves. These seemingly inanimate creatures are also fantastic pumps, filtering tons of water to harvest just a few ounces of microscopic food. How do we know sponges were our ancestors? It turns out that all organisms in their genes carry clues to their evolutionary history -- a unique set of acquired genetic changes passed on through countless generations. This fact allowed Mitch Sogin to compare and contrast specific sets of genetic differences between sponges, flies, fish, frogs, humans and other organisms. He discovered that sponges, indeed, were the start of the animal kingdom and laid the foundation for all animals to follow but plants need C02 AND ANIMALS NEED OXYGEN BUT I STill want to know..which cell membrane came first Posted by one under god, Friday, 7 March 2014 5:42:54 PM
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the membrane..is a key component..for cellar life..
ITS NOWHERE NEAR BEING ANYTHING LIKE A MUD BUBBLE..[YEa..another 'theory] http://www.biologymad.com/cells/cellmembrane.htm The cell membrane (also called the plasma membrane, plasmalemma, or "phospholipid bilayer") is a selectively permeable lipid bilayer found in all cells.[1] It contains a wide variety of biological molecules, primarily proteins and lipids, which are involved in a vast array of cellular processes such as cell adhesion, ion channel conductance and cell signaling. The plasma membrane also serves as the attachment point for both the intracellular cytoskeleton and, if present, the extracellular cell wall. he cell membrane consists primarily of a thin layer of amphipathic phospholipids which spontaneously arrange so that the hydrophobic "tail" regions are shielded from the surrounding polar fluid, causing the more hydrophilic "head" regions to associate with the cytosolic and extracellular faces of the resulting bilayer. This forms a continuous, spherical lipid bilayer. The arrangement of hydrophilic heads and hydrophobic tails of the lipid bilayer prevent polar solutes (e.g. amino acids, nucleic acids, carbohydrates, proteins, and ions) from diffusing across the membrane, but generally allows for the passive diffusion of hydrophobic molecules. This affords the cell the ability to control the movement of these substances via transmembrane protein complexes such as pores and gates. Flippases and Scramblases concentrate phosphatidyl serine, which carries a negative charge, on the inner membrane. Along with NANA, this creates an extra barrier to charged moities moving through the membrane. Membranes serve diverse functions in eukaryotic and prokaryotic cells. One important role is to regulate the movement of materials into and out of cells. The phospholipid bilayer structure (fluid mosaic model) with specific membrane proteins accounts for the selective permeability of the membrane and passive and active transport mechanisms. In addition, membranes in prokaryotes and in the mitochondria and chloroplasts of eukaryotes facilitate the synthesis of ATP through chemiosmosis. Posted by one under god, Saturday, 8 March 2014 7:44:12 AM
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in support of the pig thesus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1896531.stm scaffold" made from pig's intestine could improve the healing of damaged knee ligaments, say experts. Once all surrounding tissue is removed, connective tissue from the gut of the animal forms a strong mesh. It is unlikely to be rejected by the human immune system, claim scientists. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904586 anatomically similar to human knee joints http://www.researchgate.net/publication/16303685_The_mechanical_function_of_the_meniscus_experiments_on_cadaveric_pig_knee-joints Posted by one under god, Monday, 10 March 2014 11:32:26 PM
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>>The first thing to realize when attempting to understand the nature of Joe's Energy Cell is that many of the precepts and rules of conventional science do not apply.
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fejoewatercell.shtml<<
The key rationale for the Energy Cell, as I understand it, is encapsulated in the following sentence:
"This third type of gas is the gas that Joe uses to power the car's engine. Here we have a 'gas' that has somehow captured a significant amount of Orgone Energy which is expendable within the confines of the engine."
This Orgone Energy thing sounds interesting, I thought.
Then I met this sentence:
"Wilhelm Reich, a titan among 20th century scientists, discovered orgone energy in the late 1930's as an outgrowth of his study of the psychic and physiological functions of the sexual orgasm of which he first published studies in 1923."
I suddenly had this image of what exactly Mr Reich was doing, when the notion of Orgone Energy came to him.
It's a good thing I am having a caffeine-free day, or my keyboard would have needed replacement.