< Back in the dreamtime there were no irrigators upstream to steal the water, so perhaps, just perhaps, the Murray River's sea mouth had closed over naturally and Ngurunderi walked across a sandbar. Perhaps it was just that time of year, or perhaps too much water had washed into the swamps. >

Consider the evaporation rate from Lake Alexandrina, Lake Albert, The Coorong and Goolwa Channel, all of which amounts to a very sizeable open water area at the mouth of Australia’s largest river. Consider also the movement of water into the groundwater system and the very extensive swamps around these lakes and then evapotranspirated through a very large expanse of natural vegetation.

The flow down the Murray in dry times in pre-European occupation could easily have amounted to less than this output, thus allowing a sandbar to form across the mouth.

It comes as no surprise at all to me that a sandbar could have formed in dry times, long before the flow was reduced by the diversion of waters into irrigation areas.

INTERESTING..anyhow the hunter and naomi river used to be one
till bIAMI divided THEM ..pre western invasion

see they came looking for the river of life..holding the tree of life
[later 1970'S]..the hippies found it on the hunter

BUT I SEE NOW why many think its the murrey
IT is the huge murry joke..[the lost tribe that never left the wilderness.]

naomi in language means RIVER OF LIFE..ya just had to ask the blACKFELLA..he woulda tell ya...

AHHH Men

OUG,

I've got the papers to a bridge across Sydney Harbor if you want to buy it - cheap !

Joe
www.firstsources.info

OH DEAR ..sorry tO BE THE ONE..to tell ya joe
but..their fake..id go back to the fella wot sold em to ya and tell HIM LAND CANT BE OWNED..we are a part of the land..just like your hand is a part of your body..

and that bridge..[where they HUNG THE big eye new years EVE
sits on two chunks of land]..[mate im dutch..WE BUILT OUR OWN LAND]

we dUTCH..[ONE FOOT ON THE WATER/one on the land..first found these lands way back..we called IT NEW HOLLAND..but then we met george warrumpies mob..AND GOT MESSED UP REAL BAD..SO THey run away..stopped briefly..aND ABDUCTED MY MOB DOING CERIMONY..THEN RAN AWAY HGOME..and named melville island 'van..die..mens'/land[of the peoples land]

AND FORGOT WHAT WE TAUGHT THEM[JANSON]..HIM OF THE BOOK/LUTHER

but then swedenbERG WENT..and translated the bible[and captain cook's Illuminati pals..STOLE THE LAST 3 CHAPTERS..[THAT explained these times[PRESENT/TIME]..AND went to new holland..TO DECLARE IT TERROR NULLIOUS..by banks leaving behind small pox virus

BANKS then returned home and talked up big..the terra nulios thing..thinking he had killed OFF THE AB'ORIGONALS LIKE THEY DUN WITH NEW FOUND LAND AND THE AZTECS....but we never took the blankets he left behind

THUS WE DIDNT DIE
yet the lie goes on that land can be 'owened'..THE land mother owns us..[biami gave us life..but we talked of that before[ps the wikiseed/wIKIGELD [TREE OF LIFE]..was ripped up like the murry god.. AND THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE..[oF good and bad]

Loudmouth, OUG

Can you tell me what the Yaraldi name for Lake Alexandrina was?

I have heard that the River was called Millewa or Tongala. Is this correct? Which is the Yaraldi word for the river?

And thanks,

So you're Dutch AND Aboriginal, OUG ?

When one looks on Google Maps at the region around the Murray Mouth and right down to the South-East, what leaps out at you are the successive sand-ridges running parallel to the present coast-line, for hundreds of miles, in fact almost right up to the Mallee.

So it seems quite likely that five, ten, thirty, fifty thousand years ago, maybe millions of years ago, a process of building-up of those ridges has been going on continually. Archaeologists would find the earlier ridges rich in human artifacts and remains, and could probably date the first arrivals of Ngarrindjeri and Meintangk and Booandik - or whoever came before them, when the ridges were exposed to the sea, especially up closer to the Murray. And the Murray has been a far bigger river in the past as well, back in 'Mungo times' when eastern Australia was much lusher.

Beautiful country !

Joe