Hi Pericles,
Kirschner is probably the same to me as he is to you, he's the chair of the Department of Systems Biology, Harvard Medical School, a respected authority with regard to evolutionary thinking.

As Zimmerman was banging on about the importance of subscribing to evolutionary ideas in this article, I kept looking for his reasonings. Seemingly his only contention was that evolutionary thinking has brought great benefits to humankind, though he couldn't seem to list one.

I don't think evolution has brought any practical benefits scientifically (with regard to our understanding of the workings of physiology or medicine), and I've listed here one respected proponent of evolution (i.e. someone who is not speaking from mine or any creationist corner) who's openly willing to admit as much.

ITS CLEAR TO ME..NOW..JUST HOW..god created 'man'
then took his dna..[took out the troublesum 'y' chromosone]..and doubled up on the XX..the fruits of the pig/ape hybred..[lol high breed]

really you atheists dont realize the humor oF OUR FATHER

anyhow..in support of the pig thesus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1896531.stm
scaffold" made from pig's intestine could improve the healing of damaged knee ligaments, say experts.

Once all surrounding tissue is removed, connective tissue from the gut of the animal forms a strong mesh.

It is unlikely to be rejected by the human immune system, claim scientists.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904586
anatomically similar to human knee joints

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/16303685_The_mechanical_function_of_the_meniscus_experiments_on_cadaveric_pig_knee-joints

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=50+knee+joint+refutES+EVOLUTION&o
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An evolutionary perspective of the knee.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3654710
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* Similar

1. J Bone Joint Surg Am. 1987 Sep;69(7):976-83.
... The complex asymmetrical..*design of the human knee is ancient in origin. The distinctive characteristics of ...>>..PORKy pig?
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why Lucy Fails Test As Missing Link — The Forerunner
www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0714_Lucy_fails_test.html
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But another evolutionary writer says this about the search for humanlike (homonid) ... facts, however your refuting evidence is based on looking at angles..and testing distances. .... For a full history of this claim, read the talk.origins knee-
joint FAQ file (Lippard 1997). ....
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why evolution succeeds where the teleological argument fails – Part 4
inquirers.wordpress.com/.../the-design-debate-why-evolution-succeeds-where-the-teleological-argument-fails-part-4/
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19 Sep 2011 ... Criticisms of Evolution Despite the tremendous strength of evolution theory, there are those that ... design, they must not have, and the presence of irreducibly complex surely refutes evolution. ... 2005 “Are 'defective' knee joints evidence for
Darwinism? ... Brain and Behavioural Evolution 50 (4): 253–59.
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Plantaris vestigial - creation.com
creation.com/plantaris-vestigial
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Journal of Creation 14(2):50–53 ... A sequel that comprehensively refutes
arguments to support evolution. .... of the triceps surae are attached near the ends of either the distal femur or proximal fibula on the posterior aspect of the knee joint.
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Was Lucy An Ape-man? - Institute for Creation Research
www.icr.org/article/was-lucy-ape-man/
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He calculated her to have stood about 3'6" tall, and to have weighed about 50..pounds. ... Furthermore, Johanson seldom reminds us that he found the knee/joint—the strongest ... at worst, she was a mosaic, yet she is still touted as the..
best "evidence" for human evolution. ... Does 'Y-Chromosome Adam' Refute
Genesis?
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Evolution - Way of Life Literature
www.wayoflife.org/index_files/category-evolution.html
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The ICONS OF EVOLUTION that we refute include mutations, the fossil

The first bone discovered was a knee joint, which Johanson first considered to be>>

IREDUCABLY complex..in 50 points/ot couldnt 'evolve'
I just cant find the link..but push me//i dare you.

Understood. For some reason I thought there was subtle plug for creationism hidden in your post, Dan S de Merengue, my apologies for having such a suspicious mind.

So we do actually agree on the lack of relevance in the article itself.

However...

>>...Zimmerman was banging on about the importance of subscribing to evolutionary ideas in this article... I don't think evolution has brought any practical benefits scientifically (with regard to our understanding of the workings of physiology or medicine)...<<

I would suggest that an understanding of human evolution has delivered significant value to the development of DNA-related medicines and genome sequencing in general. There are even web sites established, where - in return for a DNA sample - you are advised of the relative likelihood of your being more, or less, prone to specific genetically-transmitted health issues.

Being aware that I share around 2% of my DNA with Neanderthal man is, of course, a side-benefit.

>> Being aware that I share around 2% of my DNA with Neanderthal man is, of course, a side-benefit.<<

Poor Pericles, for other humans this sharing is much higher:

“According to preliminary sequences, 99.7% of the base pairs of the modern human and Neanderthal genomes are identical, compared to humans sharing around 98.8% of base pairs with the chimpanzee.” - see Than, Ker (6 May 2010). "Neanderthals, Humans Interbred—First Solid DNA Evidence". National Geographic Society.

ITS FUNNY..<<..Being aware that I share around 2% of my DNA with Neanderthal man is, of course, a side-benefit.>>

SO SHARING HALF YOUR DNA WITH A BANNANA
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=man+shares+50%25+DNA+WIth+bannana&ie=
how that make you feel?..
all SOFT MUSHY AND warm inside..and gooey?