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Evolution Weekend: different ways of knowing : Comments

By Michael Zimmerman, published 6/2/2014

This weekend marks the ninth year that hundreds of religious leaders all over the world have agreed to celebrate Evolution Weekend.

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Quran fortold of matching Human DNA to Pigs and Ape?

* Janny asked 3 years ago
Was originally asked on Yahoo Answers India

Are apes and pigs actually cursed humans?
Read surah 6:60.
Allah hath cursed some humans and transformed them into apes and swine.
The Qur'an is more than 1400 yrs old.

In 1995 the scientists study was completed, and this is what they said:

We took the human genome, cut it into 173 puzzle pieces and rearranged it to make a pig,” explains animal geneticist Lawrence Schook. “Everything matches up perfectly. The pig is genetically very close to humans.”

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Why did allah secifically chose two common animals share dna with humans, why not a snake, or a tiger? and the word DNA did not exist in those time, it just a sign that allah wanted u to find.

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Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:03:35 AM
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Different measurement, George.

>>Poor Pericles, for other humans this sharing is much higher: “According to preliminary sequences, 99.7% of the base pairs of the modern human and Neanderthal genomes are identical, compared to humans sharing around 98.8% of base pairs with the chimpanzee.”<<

This is the basis of my 2.6%:

"Neanderthals — Homo neanderthalensis — and modern humans — Homo sapiens — lived along side each other for thousands of years. Genetic evidence suggest that they interbred and although Neanderthals disappeared about 30,000 years ago, traces of their DNA — between 1 percent and 4 percent — are found in all modern humans outside of Africa."

So - as I read it - we are not talking about the totality of the base pairs, only those that differ.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:34:21 AM
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Pericles,
We do have an amazing DNA structure and can see the wonders and benefits in documenting the genome. So for these, do we pay homage to evolution, or marvel at the creative abilities of the Divine originator? That's the question. That's the beginning of the discussion.
Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:23:20 PM
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Pericles,

You apparently understand these things better than I. My joking remark was only about your use of words. You spoke of “sharing DNA with” not of “traces being found”.

We allegedly share 98.8 % of DNA with chimpanzees but are there any “traces of chimpanzees’ DNA found in all humans” ? If yes, this would mean - as I understand it - that some of our predecessors were chimpanzees, which is quite different from saying that we share predecessors with chimpanzees.
Posted by George, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 2:14:15 AM
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Interesting delineation, Dan S de Merengue.

>>So for these, do we pay homage to evolution, or marvel at the creative abilities of the Divine originator?<<

By now you know well enough my answer to that.

But it does raise a question back to you: what is the meaning of the term "Neanderthal Man" to a young-earth creationist?

And thanks George, I was aware it was a light-hearted observation, I was just clearing up my own imprecision. You do raise a fascinating point, however:

>>We allegedly share 98.8 % of DNA with chimpanzees but are there any “traces of chimpanzees’ DNA found in all humans”?<<

I don't know the answer to that, but I am now keen to find out how it fits into the picture.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 6:12:19 AM
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Pericles, I think we share ancestors (hence the bulk of our DNA) with chimpanzees, but I don’t think that chimpanzees were among our ancestors. However, I might stand corrected.
Posted by George, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 7:25:05 AM
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