runner
What vested interests does BOM or the ABC have in the Climate Change debate? Please elaborate.

The only vested interests I can see are coming from industry and those who look after their own self interest rather than considering the effects of their actions on the environment and without a care about long term damage and its effect on the majority of the population. I am not talking just about CC but on the importance of the environment to human wellbeing and survival.

I am not religious, but I reckon if there was a God he would not want people trampling and demolishing the earth as some believe he made it. I have no idea how much climate change is caused by man or by nature but to not have a discussion because of pressure from businesses is just negligent in my view. Also the science community seems pretty much in agreement that much of it is due to human activity. I would trust the majority of scientists over business interestes anyday.

The Libs don't want to do anything about global warming really, we all know it, and talk of direct action is just that - talk.

Ok Robert, so correct me if I'm wrong, but what you're suggesting is that we impose a duty on incoming goods, which makes them as expensive, or more expensive than locally made.

Well two obvious flaws I see, One, the likes of China, with 2 billion to feed and no welfare so as to speak just accepting such a huge hit to their economy and Two, the majority of our people who buy cheaper products, buy them because they can't afford anything else.

So, do we increase wages even more to provide the necessary funds for people to buy locally made?

The trouble is that for every action, there is a reaction, and the reaction to our out of control costs has been fo our manufacturers to either go outmof business, or go elsewhere, as has been the case.

The damage is done and can't be fixed in my view, unless of cause wages get slashed, but then no one will have money to spend anyway.

Manufacturing in this country is a loose loose, and all the previous government could do to help was to introduce a big fat tax. Pure genius!

And it's (the tax) is about to hit transport. Brace yourself!

To David Leigh
Yours is a terrific article. I don't see it as party political at all.Labor is pathetic, and yes, even the Greens have been quieter (but perhaps the media control what we hear from them)
Time was when even John Howard understood that something needed to be done about addressing climate change.
I am frankly astonished to see that the climate denialist trolls are out in force, damning your fine article.
I have to wonder about the readership of this fine journal, too. Where do all these troll commentators come from? True children of the Mont Pelerin Society, the Koch brothers, the Tea Party, and religious fundamentalism.
This would be funny, if it were not an issue about our grandchildren's future.

Noel

you omitted a group.

open minded democrats.

'I have no idea how much climate change is caused by man or by nature but to not have a discussion because of pressure from businesses is just negligent in my view. '

Hi Pelican

is not sending 1000 to CopenHagen not discussion (though it achieved zilch). We can discuss Flannery's or Gores predictions if you like. We can discuss honestly the cost of putting Aussies out of work while other countries laugh at us.

their is an obvious correlation between scaring people with propaganda and receiving funding. In my many decades of life I have never witnessed so much propaganda as that which has come from the warmist. The more their funding is threatened the more desperate they become.

Could you imagine all the money wasted on such nonsense having been spent on real environmental issues. God's planet would be much cleaner.

you write

'I would trust the majority of scientists over business interestes anyday. '

business is not the only humans full of self interest. Why are they any more full of self interest than the Greens or the Labout party or the Liberals. It is in no ones interest to see the environment wrecked least of all industry. The billions wasted already on Green nonsense shows that their is muc self interest by those on the gravy train.

'I have no idea how much climate change is caused by man or by nature
runner,
I thought it was God who designed all that. Does it say anything in the bible about all the climate changes we've had over the past several thousand decades ? If God thought ice ages were a good idea then why would he change now ? On the other hand if there really is a creator then isn't it about time to knock this idotic crowd on this planet out of existence ?
Perhaps this is what Atlantis was all about & the Egyptians & all the other civilisations of which there are only ruins left. Perhaps they were just as stupid as we are.