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Responsibility and alcohol related violence : Comments

By Tim Pascoe, published 14/1/2014

These teenagers were not killed by Smirnoff or Johnny Walker, they were killed by Kieran Loveridge and Shaun McNeil; individuals prone to violence regardless of whether they were intoxicated or not.

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Ben your ideas are sensible and in the public interest, so unlikely to by implemented by any of our governments. I think we need a public anti-ad campaign like Bugga Up, which did a sterling job of taking the mickey out of cigarette billboards all those years ago. Unit pricing of alcohol is long overdue. There is a floor price for cigarettes, there should also be one for a standard drink.

Too many public places are no longer safe for ordinary people to go and have fun
Posted by Candide, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 3:35:07 PM
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I'm very sorry INDIVIDUAL... I'm very much afraid the Army wouldn't want them, most are too far gone with their excessive drinking, topped with drugs and anything else that going around at the time ! Regrettably, the Army has enough problems with Budget cuts, out-dated hardware, and kit ! Without having to put up with some of these Boofheads ! My apologies though my friend, you could try the Air Force perhaps ?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 4:08:29 PM
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Well Tim, while I agree that not all acts of violence are alcohol fueled, I would suggest most are. Either that, or they are drug fueled.

It is my view that nobody should have to put-up with either overly drunk, or drugged individuals while on a night out on the town, so itmis for this reason that i think police should have the power to perform random checks on people who they grudge as suspect.

Furthermore, I think we should have a legal limit of blood alcohol while in a public place, say .1 for example, which is twice the legal driving limit and zero tolerance for illicid drugs.

At the end of the day something must be done to protect the rights of law abiding citizens simply out for a good time, and lock outs are simply not the answer.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 4:36:21 PM
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As the last 3 killings on the street occurred in the early evening, the linking of this to extended trading hours is very weak, and is the topic of a separate discussion.

These assaults are the result of a small minority who delight in violence. the answer is making it clear that this violence will lead to jail time, even when there is no complaint.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 2:30:49 PM
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There is a third fuel to this violence of alcohol & drugs. This fuel is the fuel provided by the judiciary by way of gross injustice to victims & over-protection of the perpetrators.
It fuels the confidence of potential criminals who get almost daily encouragement by hearing of incompetent magistrates being super lenient to violent crimes. Those handing out pi$$ weak sentences are the real criminals because of deterring criminal minds they encourage them.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 9:44:46 PM
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