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Responsibility and alcohol related violence : Comments

By Tim Pascoe, published 14/1/2014

These teenagers were not killed by Smirnoff or Johnny Walker, they were killed by Kieran Loveridge and Shaun McNeil; individuals prone to violence regardless of whether they were intoxicated or not.

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I agree Suseonline.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 10:32:40 AM
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alcholol fuels violence just like porn fuels perversion and child abuse. The author is right in pointing out that the issues are already in the heart of man. Pouring petrol on a fire is not very smart.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 10:47:40 AM
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Don't the images of Shaun McNeil speak several thousand words ? He's obviously of the moron variety, sadly of the dangerous one.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 10:55:48 AM
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Come on Suse, don't be a piker. Shut them at 10, like in the old days.

When I was a boy the pubs shut at 6 o'clock. Some clown reckoned it would be more "civilized" if they shut at 10. To sell grog after 10 required a special licence. Even then we did not get crowds in the early mornings, with gangs of youth, roaming the city streets looking for trouble.

Perhaps fueled by the grog industry, closing times were made more "civilized" over time, until we got the present situation.

If this is civilized, I'm damned if I know what is uncivilized. Kids around here drink at home until 10 PM or so, as "it's cheaper to get pissed at home, & then go out" they tell us. Civilized? Yer right!

You are not going far enough Suse. 10 PM would be a suitable time to close, when the yobos can still get home by public transport, & clear the streets.

You can only blame the grog industry, producers & sellers, & our politicians. Without the late night closing, much of the problem just fades away.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:02:45 AM
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Two years of National Service would also keep a hell of a lot of them away from alcohol.
Plus they'd be in a better frame of mind already before they get drunk.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:10:52 AM
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I suspect a large number of those involved in this violence comes from fatherless or broken homes. I doubt whether any real research would be allowed on this likelyhood.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:11:47 AM
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