the only..error..i see..is the name[not the concept]
http://healthydebates.com/21-images-children-sleep-around-world/
it simply..needs a new name..[common/shareholder..payout]
to every-one..born/here.

each/cuntry..pays for its own
[by debt accruing..if necessary]

see little known..is that
EVERY..'country..is...BY treaty/..under maritime-law..
thus each..cuntry..IS..[legally],,operating as a cooperation
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=countries+are+corperations&

thus..ALL..the states children..get a shareholder dividend
[like canadians..get cash..from the money..THEIR/corporate/govt collects]..of course those rich/fat-cat..public servants will never admit..WE DONT..NEED..THEM...telling the living what they canand cant do

THEY ARE ONLY THERE..to serve you
not serve..themselves and their elite mates

if you reap in..the harvest..[of our common-wealth
you must pay us all..for our fair share]

se TOGETHER..we are the joint..LIVING heirs
of the immortal/unseen..BETWEEN us god gave it TO..ALL OF US

yu tells the truth
<<..If you tried to live out in nature, either individually or in groups/tribes/packs, picking and using its resources as you please, as our forefathers did for 100,000s of years, you would be charged with 1001 offences, arrested and thrown in a small cell.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/oregon-girl-barred-from-selling-mistletoe-but-told-its-okay-to-beg/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/americanization-leading-the-way-to-gutting-worker-protections/
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/electric-car-owner-arrested-%E2%80%98stealing%E2%80%99-5-cents-power

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517898/Hunger-Britain-public-health-emergency-number-people-turning-food-banks-feed-families-soars.html

These offences would include trespassing, breaking fences, contaminating water-reservoirs, lighting fires, stealing, hunting and fishing protected animals, use of weapons, endangering traffic and rail, indecent exposure, entering reserved military/security zones, improper disposal of garbage, building and mining without permit, breaking quarantine regulations, failing to register children and pets, having illegal pets, failing to pay council-rates and for water and sewerage, breaking health-and-safety regulations, etc.>>
http://investmentwatchblog.com/flashback-never-forget-who-stole-your-future/
http://12160.info/page/incredible-minutes-from-a-1974-henry-kissinger-staff-meeting-on-g

http://investmentwatchblog.com/hyperreport-pensions-vaporized/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517858/RBS-NatWest-blame-DECADES-scrimping-IT-Cyber-Monday-fiasco.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=005_1386131628
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node?page=1

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/federal-government-assumes-control-of-arizona-forests/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/wall-st-banks-hire-children-of-chinese-leaders-to-make-big-dollars-some-never-work/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-economic-and-political-context-of-student-debt/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rMYLmNT8oY
http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/genetic-fallacy-how-monsanto-silences-scientific-dissent/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/18/us-usa-pentagon-waste-specialreport-idUSBRE9AH0LQ20131118

there are 3 giffs..ona too fast rotation
but allow what they are SAYING..to seep in
for now skip past them..to the words..*[not quoted]
http://truth-now.net/

related/words..
from..an..other link
Accountability in Government… in the Words of JFK

So what happened to accountability in government? Surely questions related to the lawful validity of Government are not simply vexatious? Rather, isn’t a “Government” official who declines scrutiny into the lawful validity of their office claiming to be above the law?

In 1961 US President John F Kennedy made a speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association that everyone in Government – and those who believe Government do not have to answer to the people - should listen to.

He stated: “Government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information, outside the narrowest limits of national security…. We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors, and we expect you to point them out when we miss them” said Kennedy. Those are powerful words.

So if this is the case, does real government simply shut up when its validity is challenged? Or does it attempt to address the concerns of those it is supposed to serve, especially as public pressure to do so continues to mount?

And if they don’t serve us…. who ARE they serving?? What would happen if the “Government” started to act as the Executor of a trust – dictating rules, codes and statutes to you?

What happens if “Government” started demanding that benefits be returned to them..?

How could this happen..?
http://truth-now.net/corporations-masquerading-as-government-part-ii-which-government-can-we-trust/

ASK>>NOT*..what..EXTRA YOU MUST*_DO..for govt
but DARE ASK..what does govt do..for you?

Loudmouth "Where does this bucket of money come from, if not from workers somewhere?! It has to be generated somewhere, not just spent and circulated."

Where does the bucket of money paying for all the currently active publicly funded projects come from?

I want most of those projects privatised or abolished.
So that's where much of the money will come from.

You answered yourself: spent and circulated.
A tax on bank transactions would collect a small amount from each transaction.
Since Joe Blow doesn't have a lot of these, compared to Coca Cola or Georgina Rinehart, he won't pay much tax and will also receive the payment.

A tax on *all* bank transactions (no deductions/exemptions) would tax many things not currently taxed (e.g. "deducted" executive mega-salaries and chauffeured limousine expenses, no-gain stock trades and house sales, charities, religious organisations).

Wow, all that public money just appeared out of thin air!
Just by changing the tax law.
And dropping the superfluous government projects.

A few respondents believe that the ones to benefit from negative-income-tax are no-gooders who do not deserve it, that taking revenge against them is even more important than saving tax-payer's money (by allowing them that meagre income and eliminating the middleman that costs so much more).

So I would like to pause here and give examples of some other people who will benefit from unconditional negative-income-tax:

* Tom works for a private-investigation company which trades under two different names. A customer walks to what-he-believes-are two different companies and asks each to investigate a certain matter. The boss calls Tom and asks him to carry the investigation, then prepare two separate reports with somewhat different wordings, for that same customer, so the company is paid twice for the same job. Tom understands that this is immoral, so he can now tell his boss that he won't do it because he knows that if fired, he has negative-income-tax to fall on if necessary.

* Young Mary is unable to work because she has severe morning-sickness. She is horrified at the idea of pregnancy and is not ready to see a doctor who may hand her that verdict. Under the current system, 3 people are to be paid with tax-money: Mary, some Centerlink inquisitor and a doctor. Now it is only Mary, who can take her time to see a doctor only if/when she wants.

* Dick wants to be a farmer because he believes a certain new crop can do wonders. He bought farm-land with all his savings and started cultivating that crop. However, it takes a few years for it to grow and meanwhile he needs a little money to get by.

* Dorothy is a devout Christian who spends her life as she believes Christ would: helping old and frail people around her neighbourhood. She does their shopping, cooking and cleaning, washes their feet and a few other chores. Because she is independent and works on faith alone, she refuses to operate under any formal charity or supervision or even to waste time on making records of her services.

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* Harry is a potter. He spends his days making nice pots and places his decorative art-work in public parks. People young-and-old enjoy his work, but he wouldn't commit to work under contract because he believes that would compromise the artistic value.

* Jane worked at the same place for 35 years. She doesn't feel that she could work anywhere else at her age, so she has nightmares about being sacked or the workplace closing-down. She visits doctors for her anxiety, who prescribe her medication that doesn't do much. With the introduction of negative-income-tax, Jane is no longer worried. She sleeps well, no-longer sees doctors, chucks her medicine in the bin and her productivity at work increases.

* The baker asks Joe, his assistant, to add sugar to the dough. Joe finds out that the baker discovered a legal-loophole to write some obscure word in the ingredient-list instead of 'sugar' in order to avoid informing the customers that there is sugar in the bread. Joe is now unafraid to tell the baker to stop that practice and the baker agrees, telling him "OK, no more sugar".

* Later, Joe discovers that the baker still comes at night and adds sugar to the dough, so he quits. He then talks with another baker that tells him: "You're a good guy, I'd be happy to employ you Mate, but I can only afford to pay you $10/hour to be competitive with cheap Chinese markets". "No worries", says Joe, it's better than nothing and together with my negative-income-tax I can get by.

* A true story (name changed): Melissa (60) had physical issues preventing her from doing many jobs, but Centerlink told her that she is still able to walk and distribute pamphlets to letter-boxes for a big supermarket. While she hated the immorality of the idea, she would go hungry without it, so she did. Who suffers other than Melissa? EVERYONE! We are all victims to the tyranny of junk-mail. Even placing signs on our letter-boxes doesn't help. The ones to gain from negative-income-tax in this case are ALL OF US!

Mr. yuyutsu, Greetings.

I have been following the arguments presented here with great interest but I must take issue with your last sentence:

The ones to gain from negative-income-tax in this case are ALL OF US!

My answer s definitely not. There are people, my 3 sons, who work very long hours and pay an inordinate amount of income tax and as they tell me ... " for a bunch of bludgers". In times of difficulty we ( their parents ) support them, still. They have been taught to look after themselves for the main thing that was provided was a good education and instilled in them the value of work. " a fair days pay for a fair days work" not to have the fruits of their labor " ripped off" them to be distributed to all and sundry.

Sorry but that is how working people seei it.