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Integrated agreement the only way to resolve climate change : Comments

By Darcy Gilligan, published 22/11/2013

Support favouring climate action is surging across the globe. Domestic public demand for action is exceptionally high, and this has proven true in the latest talks at the current United Nations climate talks in Warsaw.

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This writer must be living in a different universe. Irrespective of what anyone may or may not think of climate change there was no indication that this conference will be any different to any of the others that have not produced any successor to Kyoto - quite the opposite. My distinct impression from the news reports is that no-one expects anything to happen, apart from the developing countries demanding more aid.

Come to think of it, isn't this the conference where the developing countries have been demanding compensation for damage supposedly caused by climate change - demands comprehensively rejected?
Posted by Curmudgeon, Friday, 22 November 2013 9:13:18 AM
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Darcy Gilligan,

>"Support favouring climate action is surging across the globe. Domestic public demand for action is exceptionally high, and this has proven true in the latest talks at the current United Nations climate talks in Warsaw."

What planet are you on? Certainly not Earth. I guess it is an indication of the power of group-think and herd-mentality that you could be so out of touch with reality.

To get a dose of reality just look at how little interest Warsaw climate chat has had in the English media world wide:
"This [chart] summarizes all English-language monitored mainstream and social media coverage worldwide of Climate Change": http://climatechange.carboncapturereport.org/cgi-bin/topic?#activitytimeline
And notice how the interest ha\s been decreasing since Copenhagen. Each climate conference has had less and less interest. Even the release of AR5 caused only a minor blip in interest. The clear conclusion is that people have lost interest in the doomsayers scare campaign. It's now in its death throws.

Furthermore, the policies being pushed by those who attend the UN climate conferences are doomed to fail. Bjorn Lomborg had an excellent article on this in this today's Australian. Some of the take away messages are:

THE past 20 years of international climate negotiations have essentially achieved nothing.

Japan could - incredible as it sounds - end up showing the world how to tackle global warming effectively.

Only the Europeans and a few others remain devoted to significant expenses for tiny outcomes.

By the end of the century (after a total cost [to the EU] of more than $20 trillion), [the EU policies] will reduce the projected temperature increase by a mere 0.05C.

Renewable energy is expensive and ineffective.

Innovation would push down the costs for future generations of wind, solar and other amazing possibilities [read 'nuclear', but not yet ready to say the hated 'N' word to his followers.] If green technology could be cheaper than fossil fuels, everyone would switch, not just a token number of well-meaning rich people. We would not need to convene yet more climate summits that eventually come to nothing.

- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/a-green-future-for-all/story-fni1hfs5-1226765589148#sthash.mzEtlTji.dpu
Posted by Peter Lang, Friday, 22 November 2013 9:58:01 AM
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The only thing "surging across the globe" with regard to climate change is more exaggerated and hysterical propaganda each time the climate proves to be acting against what the lying alarmists claim.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:35:42 AM
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Even if the fevered prognostications of the AGW industry were real, the "tackle climate change" mantra is enough hot air to lift global temperatures all on its own. Check the calculations of someone who doesn't belong to the club but has figured out the economic implications of reducing emissions to "tackle climate change" on the basis of the relationship between emissions and global temperatures as forecast in the latest IPCC reports. It's at
http://topher.com.au/50-to-1-video-project/ .

For some of the past and present historical background to where the anti-carbon hullabaloo is being generated, have a read of
http://www.dcbureau.org/201204097128/national-security-news-service/united-states-circumvented-laws-to-help-japan-accumulate-tons-of-plutonium.html
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:34:30 AM
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Oh god, another one from the Fairyland disciplines, talking about things way beyond their understanding.

Darcy the only thing surging across the globe is the retreating global warming mob, desperately searching for a new gravy train, but one which still has wheels.

Why all this activity from the fairyland people, do they see a huge pile of projected money disappearing before their eyes as the fraud collapses, or do they see a huge void, from the lack of new publishing from the warmists, & have to fill it with something no matter how inane?

You'll have to get out into the real world to find the truth young feller, but a bit of time in the fresh air outside La Trobe should help you see straight.

A little tip. Before you start on something, check for a pulse. No amount of whipping has ever made a dead horse get up & go back to work. It is the same with failed scams, & believe me, global warming is dead, best you don't get buried with it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:37:30 AM
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I wonder which conference the fairy princess has been attending?
"The situation is so bad that environmental activist groups have had enough and are walking out. According to Spiegel, Oxfam, Greenpeace, WWF, Nabu, BUND, Friends of the Earth and others are now boycotting the conference."

Full story here -
http://notrickszone.com/2013/11/21/spiegel-describes-cop-19-un-conference-descends-into-a-climate-circus-ngos-fume-and-boycott-every-single-issue-in-dispute/
Posted by Sparkyq, Friday, 22 November 2013 12:04:10 PM
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