Sorry Tombee, but when youth, or a youth, makes a fool of itself, trying to pontificate on a subject of which they have absolutely no knowledge, it is likely to get up the collective noses of those who do have some knowledge of the subject.

There has been a rash of articles here written by social types, who's knowledge of science is almost nonexistent, despite having the word science in the title of their studies. I can only believe the misapplication of "science" to their subject is an attempt to try to legitimize their fairyland stuff.

That they then presume to lecture those who have put in the effort to understanding, at least to a reasonable extent, the math & systems involved is simply not reasonable.

When one is continually lectured by these people, one does become sick of it.

...says, Hasbeen, the atmospheric physicist (not)

He can't imagine why those who are qualified, work in the fields, and have expertise (and the people who source their conclusions) would not concur with his amateur stance.

Odd?

Poirot
You cannot peddle a dead horse. Nor in fact a live one. Old Joh isn't dead or forgotten just yet. Lol enjoy the humour of the mixed metopher.

On a personal note, poirot, I had my first literary efforts published this week. Another longterm goal achieved.

You know Darcy the line you are espousing so fervently is a greens line and the labor party are aligned with that line too.

That is why they lost the last election and are not likely to win well into the future either

Cheers

As an example of misleading information, it has always been said that Australia, per capita, is the largest ommiter of green house gasses.

What's not often said, is that the US is not far behind, 20 ton V 19.78 ton.

So, considering Aus is a huge exporter, the US population, living their day to day lives, actually omit more than we Aussies.

But hey, let's not let the truth get in the way of a good storey.

It is no coincidence that during the GFC, climate change took a back seat in the minds of most and, to suggest people care more about CC than their day to day finances is simply not true.

Besides, those who research climate change, and therefore provide the info, are being paid to do so.

As Barnaby Joice so rightly says, if you continue to pay people to research, they will.

If Aus stopped exporting, (not that we should) our emissions would reduce greatly.

So we need to put things into prospective when talking about emissions reduction, because if we stop exporting, someone else will, and chances are, their processes may not be as clean as ours.

Poirot,
So, if you see all the things you mentioned then how do you explain all those academic experts (who also can apparently see everything) grabbing all the goodies that come from all these abhorrent practises, without any feeling of guilt whatsoever ? On the contrary, they always keep bleating for more without giving those who provide it all a second thought. These academic experts are so concerned about the environment but do nothing themselves other than bludge their way through life by bull$hitting everyone & each other with figures they can't really stack up against reality.

Lego made a good point earlier. According to fairy land dwellers -
Climate scientists - GOOD
GM crop scientists - BAD
Nuclear Scientists - BAD