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By Peter Sellick, published 28/10/2013

How is she going to clear her head of the idea that it is all about morality and that the church is a spoilsport at the table of life?

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the root..of peters problem

<<..when I disavow..the conventional belief..in the existence of God.>>

please/explain
[in-plain-speak]

better to re-hearse..your reply..to us..[now]
than..trying to explain..why you deny..him..with*in..[later]

GOOD=GOD
SEE GOOD [god]..WITHIN EVERY-ONE

*..with-in..all*..his creative glory[creations]
he..ALONE..sustains all..living *our lives..yet..you
who know...his sign*..includes..*life/love/logic/light/living..

u..do/not..no know..[logus]*
why would he seek to..know you?

<<Readers of this column..will be familiar..with my disapproval
of belief...in a God..who is really..a/part..of the natural order.>>

where else could a good father be
but attending..his innocent children..to learn..one by one.[in person]

god didnt create..and run
why see you not..EMMANUEL*..in..its full revelation

"GOD/with/us"
GET it..?

[no god..=..no_us]

ME
...
WE

we are..
BECAUSE..i am..is*..

[full-stop]
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 31 October 2013 7:10:13 AM
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!_AM
me

#*#
*#*

WE
am-i

i-am=we

that ye do..to/for..the least..you did to me*
we always..enter-tain[t]..*higher..than..angels unaware

\*/
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 31 October 2013 7:22:34 AM
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re-Sermon 22nd Jan 2006.
http://petersellick.nationalforum.com.au/display/sermons2.html
why..John 1:43-51.?

THINK/WHY..john1;51
thats..the beginning..of..*what xmass-day..begun

finalized/materially..on..exodus..last-day
when..jesus REFUTED*..completely..the illusions..
of judgment..PLUS*..resection..days..simply..*by returning*

why..john 1
when..by john..2o;1-..
is..the/only..important_one..
[where he..HAD*tested..the/lies..and..won..as no 1..sun]

and yet.this is
how..your..sir*man..was begun

<<..The.Christmas-season..is decorated
with..colorful_stories*..>>

GOSPEL=TRUE WITNESS
not..stories

<<from..*THE*..gospels[witness]..of Luke..and Matthew.>>

where/is,,number one/john?
see..your confused..so..you/go back-to..your imagery

send..your flok..into..a deep_sleep



<<..The season..easily*becomes sentimental>>
yes..THINK*WHY?

yes..your..Savior was born
not*..to..become scape-goat..but..to reveal truths..
true..truths..that..*free us..from..imaginings/fears..
not bind us..into..sub-service..servitude..[since time was begun

<<..with..its mixture*of angels..and shepherds
and..wise men>>

*unite..or die..number one-peter/sun
but..back to..your..arte..of..imagery

[you..wanted/judgment..
well..thats..now begun]

<<...and wandering stars..and mangers and Mary
and Joseph..and domestic animals..and..wicked king Herod.>>

what about santa?..[satans claws?]
the santa-CLAUSE*..[want..a pause?}..seek you applause?

one/hand..clapping..or_slapping?


<<..But..of course
Mark..has none of this
and..neither has..the gospel*/of John.>>

oh great..your..refuting the imagery..now?
see how..mere-man..judges badly..
thats why god..wont do it
EITHER*

but..the angels?
who knows..dare..i read on



<<..In Johns/*gospel
we have..the majestic prologue..about/the Word
becoming..flesh and..John the Baptist..insisting..that he*is not the Messiah...>>

jesus wasnt..the messiah
john was supposed to be..
[after all..the signs pointed-to john]

two priests..created..JOHN..
on the holy..of most holy days..but..that was ended
the new way opened..for jesus..to destroy..the temple[not/john..its..number-1-son][killing john..killed the church]

jesus..[you may/call-him..emmanuel]
[simply..by defeating the LIE..of judgment day..then resection..day..[simply by..just seizing/the..day..that made..the lies go..
of judgment/resection/daze..go away



<<when John..saw Jesus
declaring*..“Here is..the Lamb*_of God
who..takes away..the sin of..the world!”>>[church

IE..repeal..
THE LIE ..OF JUDGMENT_DAY*
be..REPEALING..the lie..of a..reserection..'day'

but
back to..the illusory/imagery?


<<..It is..as if..Jesus..is beamed/down..from..starship enterprise,..he appears..out-of..nowhere.>>..*HUH*?

oh..LORDY/LORD..how..i wish..there really was..a judgment/day
but..the flesh..is weak..they arnt ready/lord..i..2..do a jonah

acim..says..we need*do nuthing
but.doing worse..thats..not ..*our curse

TELL..THE 2..PETERS*
peter

why?
<<All because..we..have seen..Him.>>

youmean
All..because..we..have
failed..2..see Him...in/other

<<All because.;.we have..seen Him.>>

*not*

you..lot cant even..'get*..god=good

[full-stop]



<<..Let us pray..that he comes..by us,..sees us
and knows us..and calls us ..to see Him.>>

WHAT>>SO..HE MUST JUDGE US
or just..you few who//rightly
*should have KNOWN..the ill seeds..the past has sown..[that you own]

yet..deny..the GOSPEL_truth
your subverting..the proof



<<>.Let us..pray ..that we arise..and go
and walk..in the way.>>

ANY-WAY*
like sleeping sheep..heading
to..the slaughter..of LIE..of..judgement day?

AHHHmen



<<Amen.>>

yeah*man..but
look-at the framing?
its art..thou arte..but not apart.
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 31 October 2013 8:34:02 AM
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These articles appear to seek the impression of aged wisdom distilled from the weariness of a battle hardened pilgrim, or something like that. I don't know. It's too aloof for me.

But I don't see any depth in this. It's too easily dismissed, even in a few sentences, in the first comment by GlenC. I can almost sympathise with the comments of an atheist like Jon J, which are at least more easily comprehensible by comparison.

Theology should be understandable. Primary school children happily read the gospels unaided, and get a lot out of them.

Similar to Doug, this was the phrase that jumped out at me: "good musical and artistic resources as well a good preaching." This sounds to me a lot like Hillsong Church, a growing and vibrant church in Sydney. But I know Peter's stomach would churn at the thought of giving Hillsong too much credit.

Peter credits the Christian West as being a great font of what's best and most appreciated in art. Yet art alone is not enough. Faith must be reasonable.

Why can't he appreciate what the Christian West gave us in the sciences? As great men of faith, men of great science and discovery, such as Kepler, in the unveiling of mysteries, said he was 'thinking God's thoughts after him'.

Faith is supposed to be reasonable. The great apostle Paul spent much of his time and effort in debate. 

God himself would not bother communicating to us so lucidly through the Scriptures if he wasn't interested in being known by and easily relating to ordinary, thinking people.
Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Monday, 4 November 2013 6:58:16 AM
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Good to see you back in action, Dan S de Merengue. Are you back from Cameroon?

Just wanted to say hi, as there's nothing particularly exceptionable in your post for me to pick at on this occasion.

Although I do find this statement a bit of a stretch...

>>God himself would not bother communicating to us so lucidly through the Scriptures if he wasn't interested in being known by and easily relating to ordinary, thinking people.<<

We clearly have a vastly different understanding of the word "lucid". Only the most dedicated theologist could possibly iron out its mass of internal contradictions, which tend to leave "ordinary, thinking people" scratching their heads at the confusion of antiquated social customs, masquerading as a message to humankind from a supreme being.

But then again, maybe it's just me.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 4 November 2013 8:58:40 AM
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Peter Sellick has demonstrated matters of faith are, at the least, flexible...

So, even though there is no scriptural basis of which I am aware for the statement, I chose to nod in agreement with Dan S de Merengue's "Faith is supposed to be reasonable" and regard the last sentence as ironic.
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 4 November 2013 9:31:05 AM
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