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By Lyn Bender, published 21/10/2013It seems that no time is the right time to discuss global warming, even as people are suffering from our failure to address climate change.
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Yes Foxy my sweet, all reputable sources, with a high & growing record of extreme failure as I pointed out.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 4:09:03 PM
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There is another one in today's "Daily Telegraph", Mise.
In Miranda Divine's column, she recounts how a man on Gosford was fined $55,000 dollars for clearing the brush from around his house. When the bushfire came, his house was the only one that did not get destroyed for a radius of 2Klm from his house. Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 4:48:43 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,
On the contrary, all that can be done regarding climate is to try to predict it - and that to date has been done efficiently. The threat of human-induced climate change, has been accepted as a genuine and very serious threat because of the Stern Report released in October 2006. However "Wedge politics" deliberately creates a division between sectoral interests - that's the name of the game. There's a "them" and "us" rather than simply "us" and much effort is employed in partisan politics which could be much better utilised in positive pursuits. Wendy Hamer stated it well: "Whether or not it's unseemly for Green politicians to raise the spectre of future cataclysmic climate change when bushfires are still raging out of control, there's no doubt that many of us who looked up to bruised and belligerant skies swirling with ash and a drift of incinerated gum leaves had to wonder 'is this what the future will be like?'" Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 9:05:58 PM
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Whilst everyone is here throwing around "facts" is someone able to tell me how much CO2 your overabundance of rotting vegetation is creating?
How many years do your "records" go back? How certain are you that it isn't just a big cycle the earth has done before? Posted by Bec_young mum of 2, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 9:36:52 PM
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.....them and us, or just us?
What about real science? What about real world ocean phenomena not yet formally researched and published? There is division because climate change is one thing and CO2 is another thing. Chalk and cheese division. It's possible for many people to agree climate is changing but a significant number do not agree the cause is CO2. How does CO2 kill coral at the rate coral is vanishing, like 80% lost in 30 years? http://www.dep.state.fl.us/coastal/programs/coral/threats.htm How has CO2 caused stocks of the four main species of Pacific tuna to fall to historically low levels? http://www.spc.int/en/employment/1074-getting-to-the-point-on-pacific-tuna-fisheries.html The problem is algae, not CO2. The algae can be observed causing the damage and devastation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9070000/9070148.stm The non-sense diatribe about CO2 is wasting time to achieve real solutions to overcome the real problem. Absolutely urgently. Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 10:21:05 PM
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