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We need to talk about climate now : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 21/10/2013

It seems that no time is the right time to discuss global warming, even as people are suffering from our failure to address climate change.

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Bolt has left out all the floods, drought, cyclones and as usual has cherry picked what he wants to see.
Add to that crop failures, animal losses and I have no doubt there is more but I can't be bothered searching to answer this drivel.
Posted by Robert LePage, Monday, 21 October 2013 12:28:54 PM
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Goats do a better job of fire hazard reduction, as well as reduce or remove feral weed species.
A few electric wires and quite intensive cell grazing, will ensure they concentrate their activities, within proscribed fire breaks or areas already inundated with feral weed species!
Very short term very intensive cell grazing doesn't compact the soil, but rather breaks it up allowing more of the rainfall to soak in rather than runoff!
Fire as a traditional means of reducing fuel loads, should be reserved solely for actually fighting fires with manageable back burns, due to the permanent loss of valuable soil nutrients, the millions of tons of annual Co2 produced; and or, the the hardening of the top soil making it far more impervious to rainfall, when it does come. Thereby adding to the runoff, erosion and or flash flooding.
When we last allowed grazing and selective logging in our national parks, we had less hazardous fuel to worry about, more fire breaks in the bush, and many more experienced eyes on the job, looking out for small spot fires and or, the mass murdering mongrels who start them?
The death toll in the disastrous Vic bush fires was quite significant, as were the deliberately lit fires!
If we stop with the annual burning, we might encourage the less fire tolerate species to progressively return, and then do what other rain forest species do! Attract rain!
And permanently damp or sodden rain forest, is less likely to burn!
Think, not all that long ago, before white settlement, our land was covered from coast to coast in verdant forest!
Only quite disastrous land management practices changed it to what we have now, a vast arid inland surrounded by a tiny green fringe, which seems to be shrinking!
Doing what you've always done, will get what you've always got!
Change might be extremely unpalatable, but nonetheless, absolutely essential!
And people now living as virtually permanent welfare recipients, bored stupid, might prefer to accept a similarly small stipend, to work as tent dwelling migratory/sober goat herders, in the national estate?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 21 October 2013 12:31:32 PM
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interesting how the new religion blames fossil fuels for every evil while ignoring the reality of what led to Noah's flood and the destruction of Sodom. Certainly history shows that man is a moral creature. When the Creator is rejected you always come up with wrong conclusions (true morality is replaced with outrage). The gw disciples certainly demonstrate this clearly.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 October 2013 1:24:52 PM
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Remember the bloke who was fined $50,000 I think it was, for clearing the bush around his house, BEFORE the Victorian bush fires?

Yep, that one, the only one in his district who's house survived.

Fool councils, pandering to the greenie vote, promoting this rubbish, & making criminals of sensible people who clear highly flammable scrub from around their homes, destroy peoples lives

It is the idiot Greens, & fools like this author who keep pushing the green garbage who are responsible for most damage. Them, & the fools who want a nice leafy, bushy "paradise", but don't think past the view.

The aboriginals, with their fire sticks converted Oz to a highly fire prone landscape. I do find it amazing that, thanks to geeenie stupidity, we are less able to successfully live in it now, than when we first settled the place.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 21 October 2013 1:36:53 PM
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'It is the idiot Greens, & fools like this author who keep pushing the green garbage who are responsible for most damage. Them, & the fools who want a nice leafy, bushy "paradise", but don't think past the view. '

strangely enough it is quite likely kids of undisciplined parents (Greens voters etc) who then light fires or lightening that causes such destruction because the proper burning never took place.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 October 2013 1:48:36 PM
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"We need to talk about climate now."

Quite so. Perhaps you should pass that on to the LA Times, to prominent warmist websites, to active leftist bloggers like PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne, who have all banned or threatened to ban any comments by people who don't accept the received wisdom on AGW.

There are plenty of people prepared to talk about climate change now; what we have on the hysterical left is a drastic shortage of people who are prepared to listen.
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 21 October 2013 1:54:52 PM
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