LEGO, I think my comments were pretty clear.

Why don't you try meeting a few people from different ethnic/religious groups instead of acting like a cat chasing shadows?

Pretty miserable response, Antiseptic. Looks like my broadside hit home.

One of the reasons I grew out of trendy lefty mindthink, my dear Anti, is because I could no longer think up excuses for the clear double standards of the Left , and I began to think for myself.

There is a clear contradiction between your advocacy of Muslims and your attitudes to Americans and Nazis. You do not hold Muslims to the same standards as you do to the people that you despise. You take it for granted that Muslims are nice people and you ignore their ideology, reinforced by their collective behaviour, which clearly shows that they are a threat to your people and everything we believe in.

You may be interested to know, that prior to WW2 there were many Jews in Europe who dismissed the Nazi threat to Jews out of hand. These Jews probably used the same arguments that you to about Muslims. "They are all nice guys who want what is best for their children, and they mow the lawns and make the trains run on time. It is just a few hotheads which give all Nazis a bad name."

With Nazis you take for granted that they are all a threat and you condemn the lot of them, never thinking that Nazism and Islam are almost identical. Albert Speeer wrote about how Hitler had met with a bunch of mullahs from the Middle East in Germany, and he had praised Islam for warriors religion more in keeping with Nazi ideals than wimpy Christianity. The Nazis and the Muslims even found common ground in their hatred of the Jews.

LEGO, I'm afraid you're still chasing shadows.

Lots of activity and no prospect of any kind of satisfaction at the end of it all. Doesn't that seem pretty pointless?

No Mr Antiseptic.

I take pleasure in the fact that your social regressives are unable to deal with your own double standards and have to respond with sneery one liners, while I can out point you every time. I am glad that you are on the yank and Aussie hating side and not on my side.

Keep up the bad work. The whole world is watching.

LEGO, I'm not sure what you think you're achieving.
All you've done is hurl abuse, with no constructive purpose. You're focussing on differences, not commonalities and as a result you're not able to see the forest for the trees, which is a shame, since you're obviously intelligent.

You see, I take it as read that there are some people in every culture who have weird, illogical views that could be dangerous if they became widespread. I also take it as read that if a culture has survived for a long period of time then it has been exposed to lots of such people and that some of their views may have been adopted as dogma by some others. So what? Most people are just as I described in my opening post on this thread.

I'm afraid that you come across as lacking confidence in both yourself and your own culture's strength, which may well be justified, since one of the major influences on that culture over the past 50 years has been corporatism, which has lead to an increasing fragmentation, while the cultures that you are so afraid of are founded on their communality.

If you'd like to do something positive, perhaps you might start looking at ways we as Westerners can integrate some of the good things that make the Islamic, Jewish and some of the Eastern cultural traditions so successful in dealing with adverse conditions? the Jewish culture, for example, is the one that has been so successful in fostering that corporatism while it remains committed to a familial/communal model. The Orthodox traditions are also strongly communal, which is why the Greek and Eastern European immigrants have prospered so well.

It would be much more interesting than jumping at shadows, don't you think?

What makes a good culture and how do we make it happen?

Well done, Antiseptic, you managed 307 words that time.

What I do, my dear yank hating antiseptic, is to point out the contradictions in the logic of people like yourself who have been conditioned to think that being anti everything is the fashionable thing to do, and who have been conditioned to think their own race and culture is evil. My mission is to deprogram you, and make you proud of your race, your culture and your nation.

I was once like you are now. I was conditioned like you to think that "smart" people manned the barricades for every left wing cause imaginable. And that constantly finding fault in my own race, culture, and history indelibly marked me as one of the sophisticated intelligent ones. But the constant refrain of left wingers. who can be counted upon to always blame the white race and our culture for anything that ever went wrong in the world, forced me to reappraise my values and start thinking straight.

Today I will happilly attack anybody who puts the boot into my people, my culture, or my allies. And I am heartened by the fact that the people like yourself, who are still suckers for this left wing ideology are so easy to befuddle. It is just as George Orwell said in 1984, Ideologues such as yourself, can not se the plain contradictions in your own arguments. My job, is to force you to look at them and to recognise them.

One of the reasons why white western culture has created the modern world and been the pre eminent culture for the last 400 years is because it did look at other cultures and evolved by absorbing the best and most practical of the values and attitudes of other cultures. The reason why cultures such as the Muslims became stagnant, was because they were so insular and contemptuous of other cultures that they saw no reason to change their ways at all.

They were so insular, that first book published in Islam that even mentioned America was not until the mid 19th century