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Australia and xenophobia : Comments

By Philip Machanick, published 25/7/2013

What are the facts on 'push' and 'pull' factors for asylum seeker arrivals.

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Dear Antiseptic,

Thank you for that.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 6:25:34 AM
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Mr Antiseptic, I live in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and I study in Australia.The Muslims from Malaysia are a minority in Mt Gravatt and they want something from you. I invite you to visit them in Malaysia where they have the numbers and the power believe me they are not so nice.I am a Malaysia Chinese and I can tell you when they have the upper hand they are not so nice or tolerant

Xiao Chen
Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia
Posted by Xiao Chen, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 12:26:57 PM
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Mr Xiao,
thank you for your perspective, but are you sure you're not confusing religion with simple power dynamics and the historic friction between the native Malays and the ethnic Chinese population, based on economic disparities? I know both Chinese and Malay Malaysians, including some who have emigrated and they are all just people trying to make a go of life, with their own problems and prejudices, just as everyone else does. It would be a mistake to judge any ethnic/religious group by its political or activist class, don't you think?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 5:24:56 PM
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AntiSeptic,

You said "Some of the nicest people I have ever met are Muslim, while some of the most egregiously despicable call themselves Christian and caucasian."

And followed in the next post, with reference to Chinese and Malay Malaysians, by saying "...with their own problems and prejudices, just as everyone else does."

Now, it seems as though it's excusable for 'problems and prejudices' to exist for non-whites, but you have no problems calling Caucasians as "despicable" and I'm sure you'd be one to jump on yelling out "racist!" to any white voicing criticism of non-whites.

When we couple this with your praise of the Muslim and Asian community, well, I think you can see where this is going. Do I disagree that Muslims are 'bad'? No of course not; what a silly way of thinking.

Another thing that constitutes a silly way of thinking is your blatant anti-white hypocrisy.
Posted by Seraphic Lord, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 6:15:02 PM
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I'm afraid you're generalising from extremes. I didn't suggest there are no bad Muslims or that all Christians are despicable.

We're all people, you know.

I'm afraid the rest is just projection on your part. I'm a caucasian Australian who identifies as Christian, but unlike you seem to be, I have no prejudices against people of different ethnicities or religious backgrounds. Do you feel inferior, or are you just naturally a timid sort of soul?

Perhaps you might try meeting and talking to some people from different backgrounds yourself?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 6:47:50 PM
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Hi Mr Antiseptic.

I am sure that the Americans, the Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan love their kids, mow their lawns, and have friends also, But I am sure that you take a dim view of these people, and would not make the same positive assumptions about them as you do about Muslims. If a Nazi woman walked down a road in Mount Gravatt with a swastika armband, I am sure that you would be hopping around in self righteous apoplexy. But a Muslim woman wearing a burqua, which is the uniform of Islamofascism, has you averting your eyes and making excuses.

Do those "nice" Muslims you see every day in Mt Gravatt believe that church and state are the same thing? Do they believe that Sharia Law should take precedence over secular law? Do they denounce western concepts of female equality? Do they believe that Muslim apostates, pagans and homosexuals should be murdered? Do they think that a woman has no right to say who she should marry? Do they believe that western women who get raped by Muslims are "cat meat" sluts who deserve it? Do they believe that raped women should be punished for "allowing herself to be raped" and engaging in "fornication?" Do they believe that Muslim men may marry outside of their faith bun that Muslim women may not marry outside of their faith? Do they believe that Islam should be spread through jihad? Do they believe that Islam must not be criticised and that those who do criticise it should be murdered?

Because they would not be Muslims if they did not believe in these things. And I will bet that you will never ask them these questions, because you don't want to know that you are wrong You are also probably a bit worried about what happened to Theo van Gogh and Salmon Rushdie, so you too frightened to ask them these pertinent questions because you know that those "nice" Muslims might go berserk and attack you if they thought that you were criticising their religion and it's associated medieval cultural practices.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 7:36:19 PM
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