Praxidice,
It's only in the last few years that I've met any "decent" middle class homosexual men, all of the Gays I knew years ago in the hospitality industry were heavy drug dealers/users and voracious party animals, that's why I used to hang around with them after work.
Have Kipp or Suse or anyone here actually been to a Gay club?
It's an eye opener, when some semi naked queen wafts past you on the dancefloor and pops Amyl Nitrate under your nose you know you're not in Kansas anymore and a visit to the toilets is an instant education in the finer points of Gay hedonism.
In all those years I was seriously propositioned only once and it was because a friend and I were very stoned, very tired and very drunk and he forgot himself, I excused myself from the situation and went home and he apologised to me the next day.
These days I'm not sure I would even be admitted to a Gay club, I don't go out anymore and I've totally given up drinking and drugs but as far as I know a lot of the venues have strict Gay only door policies. Back in the day they'd let anyone in, my wife and I and our straight friends used to go and party at Bassline, Temple, Tasty and the Peel and it was all peace and love, nowadays I don't know.

Jay - It's only in the last few years that I've met any "decent" middle class homohomosexualssexual men

The few homosexual males I once knew on satisfactory terms were in hospitality except for one IT geek. None at all in my present circle and highly unlikely to be any in the future. There are two separate lesbian couples in the township but they are on sufference, As long as they don't rock the boat the community will leave them to do their thing, otherwise ...... Its not a place for AC-DC males to live, one pair does visit family, albeit rarely, but thats all. The ones I encountered in business during the years pre tree-change convinced me I don't need creatures like that in my life. As others have commented, it appears there has been a feminization process that resulted in a whole new kind of evil. Thankfully its primarily a big city event, we bushies enjoy a slower paced & more conservative lifestyle :) :) :)

Misanthrope seems to be very unnaturally obsessed with the sex lives of others, in particular gay men. These articles bring out the strangest things in others.

As to the article, its argument was unclear and confused. Pretty much sums up the vast majority of anti-gay marriage rants.

Gays, as I understand it, already have the financial equivalent of heterosexual marriages in taxation and family benefits in the same way that non-marrieds enjoy the same equvalent benefits even though they are not married as such.
What I don't understand is why gays want to redefine an institution that has its source in the Bible and Christianity, both of which deny the moral validity of gay practise. That said, as a Bible-believing Christian, I have really good friends and relatives who are gay, live together and even have kids; they don't particularly want to be married and wonder what the fuss is all about - as do I.

Same sex or opposite sex persons in a committed relationship and receiving any Centrelink payments, must inform Centrelink.
To not do so makes them liable for prosecution, for defrauding the Australian taxpayer.

TAC - an institution that has its source in the Bible and Christianity,

Does it ?? With the exception of 'a man shall leave his father' & the odd mention of a marriage feast, there is precious little in the good book about marriage format. I would have expected a pedantic breakdown of all the ins and outs, especially considering the hebrew / jewish predisposition for complicating everything beyond recognition. For what its worth, the feast thing was probably already standard in the mediterranean area well before JC came on the scene, judging from the love of a humungous gathering on the part of italians & greeks.

I suspect the ground rules for marriage were established well before Moses started making his decrees about divorce. Note that the egyptians had an advanced society around 5000 years ago. That said, Moses would certainly have had a lot to say about marriage, and would have had a major influence on hebrew, and ultimately jewish & islamic traditions.