Jay of Melbourne goes on about Marxism and the Cold War, in regard to the fight for Gay marriage rights. What the hell for? They were around many decades ago...lol!
Talk about me raving on Jay.

Onthebeach, Praxidice and Jay of Melbourne couldn't give a damn about homosexual rights. They are now, and always have been, homophobic on this site anyway.

Calling all gay rights activists feminists always amuses me, given that most of the activists are gay males!
Mind you, for these sorts of homophobic, anti-female guys, it's the feminists fault for ALL of societies woes...

Jay trying to protest that he is 'concerned' about gay men having a problem with gay marriage legislation is laughable, if it wasn't so awful.

Banjo,
Yeah that guy is a male separatist so his remarks do stray from the point but a lot of men could benefit from taking a step back from their relationships with women and start viewing things from a male point of view. "Stardusk" and his "co conspirators" on youtube go deeply into the psychology of the goddess/madonna complex among men, what they're developing is a program to break damaged men away from that mentality and that video is just one segment of a long project. The meat of his argument on homophobia is sound though, don't you think? Homosexuals are no threat to straight men but to be labeled a "Gay" or a "Creep" is a devastating thing for a man because at a stroke it cuts him out of the dominance hierarchy.Women don't physically set up that hierarchy but they choose who wins and who loses, men's inhumanity to their own gender is all directed at gaining advantage in the struggle for reproductive rights.
what Stardusk and his MGTOW movement are proposing is a society of men who are not competing against each other and who express platonic and romantic love for their brothers, his catchphrase is "We're not old men, young men,Gay men, straight men, Black men or White men...we're just men"

Suse,
Seriously? You really believe that the LGBTI and Marriage equality movements are not Feminist? The prominent Gay men who have subordinated themselves to the LGBTI cause are open about their alliances:
http://www.salon.com/2008/11/25/proposition_8_religion/
Don't you understand dialectics or the concept of synthesis?
LGBTI and Marriage Equality are based on Feminist critique, use Feminist activist tactics and espouse the same broad objectives, some Gay men have fused their activism with Feminism because it's the dominant Left political tendency, without Feminism there is no Left Wing in the 21st century. Apart from a few cynical Christians and Liberals LGBTI and Marriage equality advocates are all Leftists and Leftists are by definition Feminists, it's not possible to be part of that world if you're not.

Suseonline - Onthebeach, Praxidice and Jay of Melbourne couldn't give a damn about homosexual rights. They are now, and always have been, homophobic on this site anyway.

Actually I have in the past had (purely) business relationships with three different homosexual males, all of which were mutually profitable. In every situation, both parties knew exactly where the other was coming from and there was never as much as hint of 'crossing the line'. Had that occurred, it would have been a toss-up whether I'd provide the knuckle sandwich or the partner would get her claws out. I had noticed however that the homosexual tribe had changed over the years but since I'd had no reason to deal with any of their ilk for years, I didn't give the matter much thought. A year or so back I struck one particularly evil (male homosexual) piece of work on the periphery of a charitable interest of mine. This turkey was well out of place, I've certainly never heard of another homosexual within cooee of charity, but then there was an ulterior motive at play here. In hindsight, I can vividly recognize the extreme feminist factor as identified by Jay & onthebeach ... the grub in question exhibited the worst possible features of both psychotic male & psychotic female with absolutely no redeeming features whatever. I've also been unfortunate enough to stumble across the odd lesbian over the years, suffice to say they were perfect examples of multiple demon possession that made 'The Exorcist' look like a nursery story. Maybe those were particularly bad examples however I won't be going out of my way to add lesbians or any homosexuals for that matter to my dinner-party list.

Jay of Melbourne has a problem with women, and Praxidice has a fear of gay people.
I repeat! Both of you go and talk to someone, about your personal anxieties; then get on with your life.

Kipp - Jay of Melbourne has a problem with women, and Praxidice has a fear of gay people.

I see the story has changed, now I'm not a closet queer but scared of the clowns :) :) :) What will it be next week pray tell ?? as for Jays supposed 'problem with women', its probably that he prefers the company of cute / straight females than crackpot AC-DC males, mind you I'm inclined to prefer cute / straight females myself.