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Are the Climate Commission's claims of a hot summer correct? : Comments
By Anthony Cox, published 12/3/2013How can there be a continent wide summer record when no part of the continent had a record?
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Posted by Janama, Friday, 15 March 2013 12:45:49 AM
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cohenite - no, not delirious. Admit I thought it was just the maximum record. I missed that the summer record was for both the mean and the maximum. That's doubly horrendous and bodes ill for most of us when the next El Nino arrives.
Seeing that you couldn't even figure out how either were calculated - it's a bit rich to have a shot at me like you did. My opinion of your article is unchanged. It's appallingly bad. Especially for a site that I presume is intended for an educated readership. (If it was posted on a climateskeptic blog protesting the carbon pricing scheme, or on one of the conspiracy freaks' science-denying websites, it would fit right in with the other nonsense and not get scorn heaped on it, because no educated person would read it.) I gather you've been sniping at climate science for ages. Why not take some time to start to learn about the subject? If you wrote informed articles they would no longer generate scorn and derision (except from people like Janama). Janama - I see you've picked up that the Birdsville record occurred in January but the series of 31 days over 40 started in December. Temp records aren't usually discarded (except the part that might be too wrong to fix). When a weather station is shifted or a new one is used instead, an adjustment is usually needed to splice the two series - eg Birdsville PO to Birdsville airport, which probably won't show up on the individual separate data sets, which are 'actuals' at that site, but it will affect the 'record'. I can understand cohenite and Janama being 'angry'. If they live in Australia (anywhere but the Pilbara), they've just been through an angry summer and that can do funny things to some people, especially if those people had convinced themselves 'we're heading for an ice age, any day now....' Posted by Sou, Friday, 15 March 2013 2:46:27 AM
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Janama, I had a look at your claims about “the fraudulent use of BoM data to claim Birdsville had a record temperature when it didn't”. The claim in the report was that Birdsville had 31 consecutive days over 40 C, a site record. Well it did have 31 days over 40 C from 27th December 2012 to 26th January 2013 inclusive.
“Rockhampton had a record daily rainfall of 349mm yet on 21st of February 1929 Rockhampton recorded 388.6mm which clearly retains the record.” These are different sites. Rockhampton weather is collected at the Rockhampton Aerodrome, which has been open since 1939. The Post Office site closed in 1953. Who knows what the rainfall at the Post Office would have been on 25th January 2013? So what was this false and misleading information the BOM gave out again? Posted by Agronomist, Friday, 15 March 2013 8:13:03 AM
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Anthony, you are such a chump. That yellow line is not an approximation; it is a bit of crayon drawing. It is pretending to be flat, but isn’t. It is so obviously a fraud, that I am surprised that even you fell for it.
Seriously mate, you wouldn’t know a cherry pick if it bit you on the bum. I compared the numbers for southern Australia and northern Australia because they are the only two that added together could possibly make Australia. Eastern Australia, southeastern Australia, southwestern Australia and the Murray Darling Basin do not added up make Australia. In fact three of them overlap. Even in eastern Australia summer of 2012/13 was the third warmest ever (after 2005/06 and 1982/83). So there was not that stark a difference between east and west. But do go on trying. If you wanted to know how the BOM came to their figures, you could read the explanation on their website, http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml rather than having your mate David pull some imaginary numbers out of a hat. Posted by Agronomist, Friday, 15 March 2013 8:15:32 AM
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"Skeptics" are all over the place depending which "strategies" they are employing in any given debate.
Take this example from Anthony Watts during an interview with the site Oil Price. http://www.skepticalscience.com//pics/wattsvwatts_global_warming.jpg and there's more: http://skepticalscience.com/oilprice-watts-interview.html There should be some sort of award for that level of denial - perhaps there already is..... Posted by Poirot, Friday, 15 March 2013 8:33:46 AM
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Bugsy if you can't find fault with "hiding the decline", & many other such activities, & believe or profess to do so, that all so called climate scientists are on the up & up you are one of five things.
You could be a club member, riding on the gravy train. You could be a fool, who will kowtow to authority, wherever you find it. You could be a greenie activist, for whom any lie is truth if it fits the current rant You could have been conned by a higher intellect, such as our esteemed treasurer, Swanny. Or you could be a liar. I obviously have no idea which you might be, but your arrogance suggests a club member. Perhaps you are simply benefiting from the huge illegitimate injection of public funds the scam has given academia. Which ever does not matter, & I do find your posts a waste of time. Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 15 March 2013 11:02:44 AM
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So all the work done by diligent Australians for over 100 years dutifully posting temperature and rainfall records are no longer required because the BoM has closed them and their data records down!
I hear rolling in the graves.
So Birdsville's airport isn't in Birdsville. It's somewhere else.
Rockhampton's Post office isn't in Rockhampton, It's somewhere else.
Why does the BoM keep ignoring the stations it closed down and futher more why does it close them down?
Casino airport is a perfect example......oh why do I bother!
It's a sad day for science