To # David G

Thanks for the oxygen. Knew I could rely on you to not keep your word.

Until you understand that:

1. There are no 1967 borders - only armistice lines

2. Security Council Resolution 242 is the only binding United Nations Resolution dealing with resolving the conflict

3. Resolution 242 does not require Israel to withdraw from all the territory it won from Jordan in the 1967 Six Day War

- then any further discussion with you and those others who use OLO to air their unrestrained Jew-hatred is out of the question.

If you care to disagree with any of the above statements - please feel free to do so. If you don't then I will take your silence to mean your consent and agreement.

Not wanting my silence to be taken as consent and agreement, I would like to point out that while I often take exception to what David Singer writes, I am not a hater of Jews.
To state, as David seems to, that those who disagree with his posts hate Jews is another, and a particularly good, example of his unreasonable arguments. It is also offensive, and, perhaps, illegal.
Nor do I want to see him stop making his unreasonable arguments. On the contrary, I find them to be continually fascinating as a study in blind-side and blinkered thinking.
I would also like to take this opportunity to repeat my dislike, my fear if you like, of Zionism. And in that I feel I am in good company, not least from within world Jewry itself.

The strongest feeling that the Singer creates in me is pity! Sure, I get angered sometimes by his cunning duplicity, his refusal to accept that there are two or more sides to every issue.

Singer is like the Israeli bulldozer driver who ran down and crushed Rachael Corrie: he just ignores any criticisms and keeps ramming his religious delusions and demands down everyone's throats.

You may wonder why he does it. Well, he is religiously deranged and he thinks that, one day, he is going to get a big reward for it from the Big Boppa in the Sky no matter how many Palestinians he is directly or indirectly responsible for killing.

I understand the extent of his delusion well. You see, once, during my impressionable youth, I too was filled with religious fervour! I walked around with a small Bible in my pocket and preached the word when I could. I spent many hour talking to myself while I believed I was talking to some God.

Time passed and gradually I began to question the claims made by clerics who couldn't explain to me why the Loving God they talked about created babies with birth defects, etc. To cut a long story short, my intellect asserted dominance over my tendency to embrace silly superstition.

So don't be too hard on the Singer. He just never grew up. His mind is clogged with all manner of racist, elitist, fraudulent foolishness. He rejects reality preferring instead to, like a child, cling to myths and ridiculous, unsubstantiated theo-babble. As I said, pity is mainly what I feel for him.

But I admit to feeling anger for what his misguided, cruel people are doing to the innocent Palestinians!

David G, your post has to be one of the most racist/antisemitic ones I have seen on a reasonable web site in a long while. The AHRC would have strong opinions about it.

There are no such people as Palestinians. It was coined as a propaganda tool and came into being on June 4th 1967.It is based on lies and violence, with NO intention for peaceful co-existence with Israel.

There is no Palestinian culture, language, nor cuisine. There has never been a land called "Palestine" ruled by "Palestinians."

There has never been a Palestinian President, Prime Minister, Government or military. This idea of there being a Palestine is a recent false one.

The so-called Palestinian cause has been used as a diversionary tactic for a long time, since the 1960s, to call attention away from the abuse of their own people.

The so-called Palestinians have been used and abused by their leaders and other Muslim/Arab lands, kept in poverty with little work, and no education - aside from teaching hatred of the Jews as the scapegoat for their problems. The hatred of Jews and Israel isn't the cause of their misery.

Ever asked why the so-called Palestinians in Gaza still live in refugee camps?

Did the Israelis force Palestinians to stay in the squalid, overcrowded camps?

So-Palestinians still live in refugee camps, even when the camps are in Palestinian Authority controlled areas, because the PLO opposes and prevents refugee resettlement. As the PLO slogan goes, “A Palestinian refugee never moves out of his camp except to return home, that is to Israel.”

While the PLO has done its best to keep Palestinians in refugee camps, Israel has done its best to move Palestinians out of the camps and into new homes. Israel has a heavily subsidised “build-your-own-home” programme for Palestinian refugees

"...Israel has done its best to move Palestinians out of the camps and into new homes." says SF.

Clearly he is even more deranged than the Singer!

Yes I feel very sorry for the Palestinian Arabs.

They're being used by their own people. They're not wanted by them. In Lebanon they have no rights and can only work at the most menial degrading jobs. The same in Jordan.

The 'Palestinians' have caused their own plight, they keep rejecting their own state and Israel's existence.. A united angerand hatred keeps the Arabs and Muslims under control.They cant see what is happening and who's truly for it. They're so brainwashed they can't see the truth. Until they can open their eyes

THEY REFUSED peace in 1937 when the British Government, which ruled Palestine, proposed to divide the land into separate Arab and Jewish states.

THEY REFUSED peace in 1947 and chose war rather than accept the UN’s Palestine partition between its Jewish and Arab populations.

THEY REFUSED peace in 1967 when Israel offered to relinquish the land it had acquired in exchange for peace with its neighbours, the Arab world’s response, issued at a summit in Khartoum, was not one NO, but three:

“No peace with Israel, no negotiations with Israel, no recognition of Israel.’’

THEY REFUSED peace in 2000 at Camp David when offered a sovereign state with shared control of Jerusalem and billions of dollars in compensation for refugees.

Yasser Arafat refused the offer, and returned to launch the deadly terror war known as the Second Intifada.

THEY REFUSED peace in 2008 when Ehud Olmert offered Mahmoud Abbas a peace agreement a Palestinian state in virtually all the West Bank, Gaza, and part of Jerusalem. Once again, the Palestinians turned down the offer.

First and foremost if anyone really wants peace with Israel, they MUST recognise Israel's existence with Jerusalem as its Capital.

As recently as early December Khaled Meshal said in a defiant speech

He "vowed to use military force to build an Islamic Palestinian state on all the land of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip."

You tell me who doesn't want peace