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Thirteen reasons it is unlucky to be male : Comments
By Greg Andresen, published 23/11/2012In today's world, who would want to be born a boy?
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Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 25 November 2012 4:39:45 AM
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Shockadelic do you have ANY evidence for any of the assertions you have made,or are you all chip and no shoulder?
Posted by Candide, Sunday, 25 November 2012 7:31:02 AM
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I'm not so sure shockadelic that this is a society issue. We to easily blame society for stubbed toes, over weight kids, high divorce rate, etc.
If you shoot the missus, is that societies fault? If you throw acid in her face, is that societies fault? If you beat her and deprive her of her liberty, ditto? Nope. If though you want to have a crack at the justice system, be my guest. Posted by Cheryl, Sunday, 25 November 2012 8:13:35 AM
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Suse, there are a lot of problems with Ken Lay's speech to the White Ribbon Day breakfast. There are too many to comment on individually.
I am sure Mr Lay knew there would be no one in attendance at just another of the many DV industry functions, to pull him up on the things he said. He gives examples of very serious assaults but says nothing about whether the men involved are now in goal. If those types of assaults were common in VIC(pop. 5.6 mil)gaols would be as numerous as Maccas. I don't believe the Commissioner would have any compunction in misrepresenting the nature and extent of violence against women. Posted by Roscop, Sunday, 25 November 2012 9:15:32 AM
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Convincing, informative, cogent, credible argument, that underlines the fact that men and women are different and even wired differently!
Hence the different, whole of life behaviour, needs and emotive responses! There was a time not all that long ago, when all the education advantages fell to blokes. More blokes went to and graduated from uni. More blokes filled all the professional positions. In our less than thoughtful haste to adjust the pendulum, have we moved too far? Are we now over compensating, with girls receiving affirmative action preferential treatment, particularly during the school years? And does this have anything to do with the disturbing fact, that most teachers are now female, who as we know, are wired differently to men, and therefore, may have an inappropriate reaction to boys? Most men may remember what it was like to actually be a boy, whereas, all too many women seem to scoff at NORMAL male behaviour, with embarrassing peer related put downs that contribute to later male inadequateness? I believe we ought to respond to feminist calls for true equality by passing laws and legislation; and provide funding, that ensures we have it! Throughout high school, all education ought to be gender specific, to take into account the very different wiring and specific needs/interests/rates of natural progress and maturation, of both men and women. There should be no glass ceiling, for either gender, in any area of life or preferred activity/endevour! Nor lack of opportunity! We should allow women soldiers at the front line; given , the only requirement/test ought to be the essential psycho-physical temperament, which many men also fail, rather than be gender specific! If we do ensure truly equal treatment in all areas of life; then surely, we can allow the cream to rise to the top; and, all prime positions filled by the most meritorious candidates, regardless of gender! And if that were indeed the case, we would surely see more women on boards, in parliament; and far less presenting as "victims" of a pro male system/old boys' club? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 25 November 2012 9:25:06 AM
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Rhrosty,
"If we do ensure truly equal treatment in all areas of life; then surely, we can allow the cream to rise to the top; and, all prime positions filled by the most meritorious candidates, regardless of gender!" I believe women are getting jobs because of their gender not because they are better at the job. Take the example of how one woman crane driver started in her job. "Only the support and guidance of her male workmates saved her. In those early days she nearly wiped out a chimney and a TV aerial, damaged the side window and surrounds of her crane, crushed a cattle stop when she took a wrong turn, wrecked a client’s new roundabout, knocked over a beautiful light on a pole, and fractured a water-supply pipe." With the same performance how many men would have been kept in the job with the support and guidance of their colleagues? And it would not surprise me if she used her gender wiles to get that. http://www.contrafedpublishing.co.nz/Contractor/2009/May+2009/Women+on+the+march/Jennifer+Wells+crane+operator.html Posted by Roscop, Sunday, 25 November 2012 10:23:06 AM
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While I have no doubt this does occur, according to the commissioner of Police in NSW, Ken Lay, it is 95% men who commit domestic violence.
http://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/our-say/10930-chief-commissioner-ken-lay-speaks-at-the-royal-womens-hospial-white-ribbon-day-breakfast.html
I think we should deal more urgently with this fact first, don't you think?