It is not the Jews Jonathon but the Zionists that are on the nose.In 2009 we had Jews at our 911 truth movement convention ie http://ae911truth.org/ It was never just the Jews or the Germans but always the elites who preach Zionism or Nazism.

I was so far saving my 4th&last post for today, but following Arjay's post, like the crow that was praised for his beautiful voice I must now open my mouth to sing and let the cheese fall:

Dear Arjay,

You truly raised my curiosities:

Who the hell are those "elites"?
Do all of them preach Zionism or Nazism?
Are they always bad?
Are there any under my bed (because it rhymes)?
How can I tell whether or not I (and those I love) am one of them?

Thanks in advance!

Dear Mac,

Ordinary Israelis are not beneficiaries of the Zionist regime: they pay highly for it, not only in taxes, not only in being conscripted to protect it, but also in blood, and smear too, well sometime also in chocolate...

Dear Tony,

Thanks for the fun and for bringing in some proportion!

See you tomorrow, or the day after.

Jonathan J Ariel,

First I should acknowledge the fact that you're prepared to engage with commenters on this subject, it's appreciated.

"As for settling territories, was there a sovereign state of Palestine onto whose soil the Israelis “settled”? The Israelis occupied lands that previously Egypt and Jordan occupied. Pretty simple stuff really."

More sophistry, the question is not whether any Palestinian state existed but whether or not people were living in the area, whether they were called "Egyptians", "Syrians", "Palestinians" or "Smurfs" is irrelevant--another version of the morally bankrupt "Terra Nullius" doctrine. The Palestinians just haven't "disappeared" as expected.

There were no "Israelis" to "occupy" lands at the initial stages of the invasion, that's begging the question.

The tragic and deeply regrettable fact that some of the Palestinian "representatives" and supporters are psychopaths and religious fanatics doesn't invalidate the human rights of the mass of the people. Old cynics like me might suspect that the more extreme Zionist elements in Israel find Hamas and Hezbollah very useful indeed.

Yuyutsu,Who are the elites? They are the people that President Dwight Eisenhower warned us about in 1961.He referred to them as the Military Industrial Complex.

I prefer Banking Military Industrial Complex since this system of allowing private banks to create money from nothing and loan it back to us and our Govts as debt,makes us the hard workers their absolute slaves.They are the elites by virtue of theft from us.Our own Govts are complicit via taxation to pay for this unnecessary debt.

Arjay,
Zionism can't be equated with National Socialism, no matter which way you look at it, in the first place Zionism encompasses a range of viewpoints and political tendencies.
Theodor Herzl wrote about the case for Zionism in relation to anti Semitism, the subject at hand, Jews will never be free from Anti Semitism except in a Jewish state because as he observed in "The Jewish State" Anti Semitism is caused by Semitism in the sense that every action will have an opposite and equal reaction and the longer anti Semitism is held at bay the more fierce will be the inevitable outbreak of violence against a Jewish minority.

Jay of Melbourne,Zionism like Nazism is an elitist view of the world.Both philosophies view themselves as some sort of chosen people who are born to rule.There are elements within China,India and Japan who think exactly the same way.

It is not defined by race,religion,country alone.It exists in the psyche of all humanity driven by our own insecurities.