Does anyone remember BA Santamaria, who occupied the same position as Jones about thirty years ago? Like Jones, he catered to the lowest level of ignorance; listeners and viewers who were too poorly educated to even realise it, and who subsequently imagined the failure of their own ideas and suggestions were due to conspiracies and jealousy rather than their manifest incompetence. And he managed to destroy the Labor Party for two decades in the process. People like Santamaria and Jones are simply out to exploit the Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.

But the world IS getting smarter, although it doesn't always seem that way, and people like Jones and his contemporaries in the media are on borrowed time.

And that petition is up to 100,000 signatures by now.

Jon J. "catered to the lowest level of ignorance; listeners and viewers who were too poorly educated to even realise it, and who subsequently imagined the failure of their own ideas and suggestions were due to conspiracies and jealousy rather than their manifest incompetence."

What makes you so sure that your world view is the right and proper one, and that those of us who might think differently from you (usually based on a lot of real world experience with life) are to be described in the terms you use? And it is worth noting that folk like me are usually the ones that have paid taxes all their adult lives, in effect supporting the public servants and those on welfare. Why shouldn't we have a say?

This is a complex world filled with people of widely differing views on many issues. The essence of a democracy is to elect governments that deliver for the whole population, as best they can.

I find that I don't agree with Alan Jones on some issues, but on other issues he does a good job of asking the tough questions, and holding the government accountable. He has a valid function, a valid role.

Even an anus has a valid and important function, but that doesn't stop it from being a hole that crap comes out of.

Jones is an offensive oaf but so is Kyle Sandilands and he still gets to keep his job. Offensive oafs seem quite popular in some sections of the community. Why single out Alan Jones for the chop when there is so much competition?

Cheers,

Tony

Find myself agreeing with you Tony.

...On the swift heels of "Alcibiades", where to now Alan? Certainly not into the “loving arms” of Rene Rivkin!

the tax payer ABC/SBS is far more repugnant than 'shock ' jocks who are not on the public purse. The arrogance and smugness of the latte sippers who are constantly invited on to the ABC might not come across as crude but display much more self rightousness than most. Tony Jones, David Marr, Peter Singer, Deveny just to name a few. Their bile towards Abbott can not even be masked as it wasn't against Howard..

There is general agreement that the remarks made by Alan Jones in respect to The Prime Minister’ recent bereavement was both uncalled for and ugly.

But the ugliness of Jones’ remarks at the university Liberal club falls into insignificance compared to the extreme ugliness of the petition, “It is time…..” The petition plus the orchestrated postings against Jones is by any objective assessment an attack on the free expression of opinion. To be specific any opinion critical of the ALP or Greens has to be suppressed

As for the Labour Party spokespersons, they are clearly motivated by self-preservation. When one reads of the vitriolic attacks by Latham, Albanese, Roxon and others, one can only conclude that hypocrisy permeates the Left. The obvious conclusion is that the only way the ALP or their fellow travellers are able to defend themselves, is by vindictiveness. To paraphrase the late President Harry Truman, if the Gillardits can’t stand the heat, they should get out of the kitchen.

Offensive oafs appeal to simple uneducated people. This issue has already had too much airtime.

Scary that he was seen as relevant for a young liberals do. How can this sad old man be relevant to a group of young people?

If the world is so much smarter, Jon J, how did we finish up with Gillard as PM.

Alan should have used ALP approved vitriol and called her an “unflushable turd”, instead of using the throwaway line as he did.

It was not meant seriously, and for those who reject politically correct restraints on humour, it gave us a good laugh.

Everyone knows that her father was proud of the unflushable Juliar, and Alan’s remark was mere buffoonery.

It highlights as what losers the ALP and the left regard themselves, when they throw themselves which such fury on an occasional instance from Jones of what they produce in great volume and more reprehensible in form, routinely every day.

I think we are seeing to much moremanufactured indignation from media and politicians. Lets face it, it's rather like listenning to a bunch of school children in the yard at playtime all calling each other names.

Even six year olds respond with greater maturity with the old "sticks and stones...."

I've never heard such a soft bunch of pathetic blouses as I have this week. I have to wonder how all these bleaters would survive in commercial enterprises? We have an an Act passed in 1994. If anyone feels agreived by abuse, villification or disrimination, they can make a case under that Act. If not, suck it up and get a life.

The amaount of energy we have sucked out of the system on this issue is rude when we consider the real issues Australia faces. A pox on the bleaters.

I have never listened to Jones, & I find it interesting that so many who hate him, know so much about his program. Do they all listen to him, meanwhile throwing rocks at the radio, or do they take the word of the current crop of puerile ABC presenters.

What ever the case, is he really worth all this rubbish?

As a refugee from the worsening propaganda of "our" ABC, I did listen to the last couple of months of the John Laws show, amazed that what I heard bore little resemblance to what "our" ABC had led me to expect.

Since then I have been unable to find anything better than my local FM station, where they play music, rather than propaganda. Even if the adds are a bit puerile, that is better than todays ABC.

When ever with hope I have again tried our ABC, I have only found programs presented by a growing number of silly little girls, [what ever their age], bringing an increasing number of C grade academics to the microphone, it is an insult to any one's intelligence. One can only take so much of the bull dust passed as leaned pontificating, on the most recent topic in the inner city lata coffee shop.

I am afraid nothing short of moving the entire ABC to Longreach, or perhaps Alice Springs will ever improve it. As for Jones, just be happy that you don't have to fund him, as we do the the Abominable Broadcasting Clowns.

Bob Francis is stil on air after years of suggesting refugees should be shot and drowned, but one thing I would like to add.

Jones was never hunted down by police over the Cronulla riots that he actually incited but the public and police and pollies were ready to steal the young child of a young Jordanian mum because he held up a banner he found in the streets and she didn't understand it.

The lynch mob in Adelaide were still whining on about her evilness two weeks after no riot happened in Australia.

Then there were the claims that nice christian folk don't riot when upset over a cartoon or shout out for deaths - except of course all those good shire folk and happy clappers in Cronulla who wanted to kill the f..........g lebs.

Why not get up Gillard for the obscenity of flogging refugees to poor neighbours as hostages to rotten and illegal law making here.

@ Marilyn,

<< pollies were ready to steal the young child of a young Jordanian mum because he held up a banner he found in the streets and she didn't understand it.>>

LOL

And look, these innocents *in France* just happened to find signs with the same wording:
http://tinyurl.com/97bzruv

And look, this innocent just happened to find a this gun lying around.
http://tinyurl.com/9pcodb7

This issue has had its day. The bad boy has been suitably chastised and has apologised, well sort of?
If you agree with and approve of the Alan Jones message; and off colour inappropriate remarks or patent Islamiphobia, then keep on listening?
If not, then simply respond by using the ultimate censor, the off button or tuning knob?
Jones has a little more to offer, than simple endless vitriol!
I have heard him as a public speaker, in passionate evocation for a worthy cause he believed in; and, clearly taking the audience with him!
If we believe in a fair go, then Alan, with all his faults and detractors, deserves one?
If that's not your view, then sign the petition and boycott the products he and the station he partly owns, advertises.
I don't know why he seems to hate Julia so much?
Nor am I comfortable with the sight of a seemingly delusional paranoid Jones, who seems to think that the whole world is agin him?
Perhaps there is an underlying health issue connected to a sedentary lifestyle or dietary preferences?
Perhaps he is exhibiting the early signs of clinical dementia, and where such unjustified abusive outbursts are almost commonplace and or, so sad?
Perhaps Julia is the only one coming out of this issue, with her remaining composure and integrity intact, by simply ignoring the Jones's outburst, with the utter contempt such, beyond the pale, abuse deserves?
Whatever you believe or think, perhaps we could starve Jones persona, of any further notoriety, by simply drawing a line under this episode.
Two wrongs or more, [well, he said, she said, kindy sandpit behaviour,] will never ever make a right or justify the abuse!
Enough already!
Rhrosty.

SP, I was not talking about France, I was talking about the nonsense in Sydney that had no effect on anyone in Adelaide but they were on about it 2 weeks later.

The mother did nothing wrong but the pollies and media were ready to lynch her.

'A degree of corruption in the media and corporate sphere has always been acceptable. In April 2004, the Chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Authority, David Flint, was shown to have penned various gushing letters to Jones. (This, incidentally, made fellow shock jock John Laws suspicious – were the two having it off?) In 2004, Jones was cleared for other "cash-for-comment' related deals apparently made with Telstra, courtesy of Flint. The plot thickened just that little bit more.'

Spell hypocrasy Bimoy.

Write it out 100 times.

Then tell me how your particular piece of oafish commentary is relevant to a discussion about Jones oafish comment about Gillard's late father.

Then tell my why the personal attacks on Tony Abbott and his relationships with women as perpretrated by the Labor Ministers aren't seen as asking the tacit question

'Hey Marg and you girls why do you put up with this mysognist bloke?'

Then tell me why you have been absolutely silent on those particularly oafish attacks.

Spell consistancy Bimoy.

Write it out 100 times.

Tony Lavis you'd agree with this too... wouldn't you?

And finally Bimoy can you tell me what sort of Grubs beat up volunteer Surf-Life Savers?

I'll accept a non-reply as you taking your time and considering the underlying questions, with a view to you penning an appropriate article:

1. How is the all too prevalent media bias affecting the tone of political discussion in this country.
2. What responsibility do media commentators have to raise the tone of political discussion in this country.

Hi Marilyn,

<<SP, I was not talking about France, I was talking about the nonsense in Sydney that had no effect on anyone in Adelaide but they were on about it 2 weeks later.The mother did nothing wrong but the pollies and media were ready to lynch her.>>

I know what you were doing. And it’s a little off the subject of this thread, as one poster has hinted at above. However, if you think you have a case, start a new thread on the issue & we’ll battle it out (weapons of your choice).

Oh come on Rhrosty, How could any one, even you, use the words Gillard, & integrity in the same sentence? What have you been smoking?

Looks like you've finally totally lost it mate.

>>Spell hypocrasy Bimoy.

Write it out 100 times.<<

There is something beautiful and hilarious about someone who spells hypocrisy with an a giving a spelling lesson to a man whose name he has misspelled. Spike Milligan and Douglas Adams will both be rolling in their graves because they didn't think of it first. I take my hat off to you imajuliamutter.

Cheers,

Tony

Australian society is an illegal PYRAMID scheme strengthened by a fabric of soul-for-sale social climbing immigrants.

Alan Jones makes a good living railing against the injustices this imposes on the silent majority and he gives THEM a voice.

This 99% support is why he will never be stopped.

The 1% of schizos at the top of the Great Australia Pyramid (eg fairfax, Lawsy and all the companies temporarily deserting Jones time-slot) will stop at nothing to protect what is in fact an indefensible social order.

But here's a tip. Their biggest weak spot is IMMIGRATION. For without immigration the Pyramid scheme lacks fresh & moralless butt-licking blood to keep it well supported.

Alan Jones knows this - he has the whole government and its unsustainable backers in the palm of his hands. The man is not to be pitied or upbraided but rather to be given a standing Ove!

Ha Ha Ha!

And the 1% rich need his market penetration to sell their crappy wares to the silent majority so they can stay RICH!

GFC mk2 will sort them out real soon! And who will care? Only the handful of snivelling social crawlers I see on this thread of course.

Yes, verrrry poor taste, and he deserves a right bollocking, but taste is not untruth. Objectively she is a liar and is so known, as a mature woman of 33 she sets up a Slush fund, a dodgy job. She plays Peter poorly and repeatedly denies her far left roots and the big one to steal an election.
What's the next?

Thanks Tony

I didn't realise my mistake. Sorry Binoy. Please accept my unreserved apology.

I expect you to have the graciousness and decency to accept my apology.

But Tony you exhibit the normal socialist behaviour.

ie avoid the issue and focus on some minor misnomer of people who hold contrary political views to you.

It's another area our oafish commentariat in Australia has been suckered into by the Gillard socialist government propagandists.

Don't you agree?

Since you haven't disputed my earler assessments and criticisms you obviously agree so I assume you'd probably agree here too...

btw your disgraceful denigration of me personally, is exactly the example that supports my view that

'1. How is the all too prevalent media bias affecting the tone of political discussion in this country.'

I think had I been of your view you might have politely pointed out my mistake or ignored it all together.

Do you see how you have affected the tone? ... made it oafish?

Thousands of people
listen to and like Alan Jones, however misjudged the petitioners think they are. We are supposed to support free speech in this country. It is alarming therefore to see 80,000 or so people petitioning to have him sacked. Who are these 80,000?
I might like to start a petition to have them charged with attempting to silence free speech. And I don't like Alan Jones either, but who will they attempt to silence next?