I heard the refrain “Look Away! Look Away! Look Away!” and thought I would drop in.

The Israeli government and right-wing radicals like Mr Singer would have us 'Look Away' as they go about business of taking the bloody lot.

It is sobering to think our own original inhabitants have ownership of more than twice the percentage of our nation than the Palestinians now have of Palestine, and yet greedy swine like Mr Singer are not content and want more, much more, as much as they can get away with.

It is deplorable, immoral, reprehensible and an affront to any notion of a fair go! Truly sickening.

But while I am sympathetic with Marilyn's assessment of Mr singer's offerings as “racist pap” I am more than happy to see them posted on this site. We need to keep flipping over rocks to see what is beneath them and Mr Singer's articles allow us that view, however unpleasant we might find the sight.

#To Geoff of Perth

I am pleasantly surprised that you now appear prepared to discuss the subject matter of my articles - although you still can't resist the temptation to throw in terms and vague phrases that are meaningless and misleading and also take a shot at me personally in the process.

You state:

"Note: The former territory in what is now Israel prior to their occupation was home to the Arabs.

It should still be home to the Arabs, including all Palestinians regardless of what the UN, League of Nations (Western Imperial organisations) purported to impose on the then indigenous population."

In response might I say:

1. What is now Israel was prior to its founding in 1948 also home to hundreds of thousands of Jews.

2. Proposals to partition Palestine (which included Jordan) in 1937 and 1947 would have required few Jews or Arabs to leave their then existing homes. These proposals if accepted by the Arabs would have ended the conflict.

3. 1,200,000 Arabs still live in Israel today.

4. Neither the League of Nations nor the United Nations can be branded as "Western Imperial organizations". America was not even a member of the 51 member League of Nations.

5. No "indigenous population" existed - as was made clear by the Mandate document which referred only to "the existing non-Jewish communities". In 1922, 589,000 Moslems, 83,000 Jews, and 71,000 Christians lived in Palestine.

Now you and Mr Falk are entitled to your opinion that the law should be totally disregarded as well as wanting to bury your heads in the sand and ignore what has happened in the last 95 years. In my opinion a peaceful resolution to the 130 years old conflict between Jews and Arabs will certainly not be found in these ideas.

To #The Iron Webmaster

You state:

"The just powers of government derive from the consent of the governed. The Palestinians did not vote to be ruled by the Mandate nor by the British nor by the League of Nations."

Might I comment:

1. The Arabs throughout the Arabian peninsula did not vote to be ruled by the Ottoman Empire for 400 years - but they were so governed.

2. The Mandate for Palestine was part of a systems of Mandates which divided up the conquered territory of the Ottoman Empire between Arabs and Jews - giving the Arabs 99.99% and the Jews 0.01%

3. The West Bank Arab population voted to unify the West Bank with Transjordan (now Jordan) in 1950 and to become Jordanian citizens with Jordanian passports.

Can you explain why having so consented - they should now be entitled to go back on that arrangement and have their own separate state in the West Bank?

Isn't it perhaps more realistic to achieve a resolution of the ongoing conflict by reunifying the West Bank with Jordan (so far as is now possible) and returning to the governance arrangements that were in place between 1948-1967?

Mr. Singer, referencing your numbers

1) You recite rather nonsensically about the Arabian Peninsula which the Ottomans never ruled but on the rather generous assumption you meant the places the Ottomans really ruled, I agree that Israel has no more legitimacy than the Ottomans. Israel abjured rule by right of conquest when it joined the UN. There are no exceptions to this.

1a) You will note the caveat JUST to powers referencing the US Declaration of Independence and the right of the colonials to kill off those who would rule them unjustly all to the cheers of unjustly ruled peoples everywhere.

2) No one voted to be ruled by the Mandate countries therefore they had no just powers. That is a premise of political philosophy which has been in conflict with pragmatism ever since but it still exists as the premise of American independence.

2a) In return for assistance against the Ottomans the Palestinians were promised freedom not foreign rule by the British who were even more foreign (in the other sense) that the Ottomans. Obviously Mandate rule was absent the consent of the governed.

3) If in fact there was such an open vote to be ruled by Jordan then in fact the Israeli rule of those who voted including Jerusalem is clearly jewish tyranny.

3a) As Jordan relinquished claims upon Jerusalem and the West Bank as part of the peace treaty two important things occurred. The people were free to choose their own destiny and the Israeli justification of its squattertowns as military necessity lost all legitimacy. So Palestinians are prevented from exercising their human right of self-determination by a tyrannical, jewish military dictatorship. And there are nearly a million war criminal Jews living in occupied territory in segregated squattertowns. Note this has been a hanging offense since Nuremberg.

The only possible solution is immediately end the Jewish dictatorship without excuse or exception. Then the Palestinians can exercise their right of self-determination in any manner they choose. It is their business and only their business. Only in antisemitic jokes do Jews know what is best for others.

Mr Singer elaboration is desirable here.

It is impossible for Palestinians to have voted to join Transjordan in 1950 as it ceased to exist in 1922 on San Remo maps.

In any event the peace treaty between Israel and Jordan included a renunciation of territorial claims in favor of the indigenous population not the foreign jewish military tyranny.

The concept of just powers is ancient and does not entail voting. It is merely a matter of consent. Consent even if once accepted is withdrawn by revolt. I suggest you actually read the colonial Declaration of Independence. Consent can be withdrawn when rule becomes unbearable. It is a tremendously pragmatic document once shorn of the mythical "what is really means" nonsense. No, it never means democracy or voting. Those are only means of giving consent and quite often flawed ones.

Just in passing I would point out Palestine is recognized as a state by more countries than recognize Kosovo and by more countries than recognize Israel for that matter. The US recognizes both Kosovo and Israel. UN membership has nothing to do with recognition as a state.

As for giving "jews" so little. The natives Jews of Palestine did not recognize the eastern European foreigners, the Zionists, in their claim to a state and often not even as Jews. The Zionists gave them a theocratic state in return for their silence. There were a few exceptions in that the state's definition of who is a jew was the same one the Nazis adopted from the Zionists. See "The Invention of the Jewish People" for further details.

As to the little being 0.01% you can't get close to that without the nonsense inclusion of Arabia. It only arises by counting all those who speak a variant of Arabic whom Zionists call Arabs in the "jewish people" (non)sense.

It was no one's to give.

Ethnic cleansing was required else the entire Zionist nonsense would have been voted out of existence in the first election.

To #The Iron Webmaster

The following factual errors and comments in your two posts make your conclusions and opinions irrelevant:

1. I did not "recite rather nonsensically about the Arabian Peninsula which the Ottomans never ruled". Read what I said again.

2.The Arabs - not the "Palestinians" - were promised freedom and they got it under the same Mandate system as the Jewish people.

3.There was indeed a vote by West Bank Arabs to unify the west bank with Transjordan which led to the unified country being called Jordan. You obviously were unaware of these facts when you made your inane comment.

4. Jordan did not attempt to relinquish its claims upon Jerusalem and the West Bank as part of the 1994 peace treaty. It did that in 1988 - although the peace treaty assigns Jordan special rights in Jerusalem and the final status of the West Bank was still to be determined..

5. At the last count there were 500000 - not 1,000,000 - Jews living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

6. The Arabs have their own sovereign independent state in Jordan - comprising 78% of the territory of Palestine included in the Mandate.

7. Transjordan did not cease to exist in 1922. It remained part of the Mandate until it achieved independence in 1946.

8. If Palestine is recognized as a State by more countries than recognize Kosovo or Israel - why are you claiming the Palestinian Arabs "are prevented from exercising their human right of self-determination by a tyrannical, jewish military dictatorship." To have such a widely recognized state they must surely have already gained self-determination.

9. Who were "the native Jews of Palestine"?

10.The use of pejorative terms and phrases like "tyranny", "Jewish dictatorship", "war criminal Jews" "Nazis" "Nuremberg", "Zionist nonsense" and "segregated squattertowns" identify you as a Jew-hater and not someone who is seriously concerned in trying to get any resolution of the conflict other than by ending the right of the Jewish people to self determination in their biblical and historic homeland.

Dialogue with you is a waste of time