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Brave and principled Ecuador: protection of an Australian citizen : Comments

By Stuart Rees, published 20/8/2012

Will Australia find the courage to insist that the human rights of vulnerable people should override the potentially bullying power of large governments.

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Oh, there you are, loud mouth...I hadn't realised you were still indulging your penchant for fictional narrative.

I say, you seem somewhat fixated on the r00ting and bonking aspects of this story - conveniently dismissing the central theme.

Strange, how you bang on ad nauseam about free and open speech when it suits you.....but of course it's easy to jump on a forum and employ such tactics to make your points.

Much more difficult to stand up for those freedoms in the real world, especially when you're up against the hegemons.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 August 2012 3:38:50 PM
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Hi Poirot,

Yeah, you might be right, a certain envy creeps in. How does he DO it ?

But my fixation with the "the r00ting and bonking aspects of this story" might have something to do with the fact that they are fairly central to this story. Just ask your erstwhile sisters: if their alleged rape hadn't occurred, our Julian wouldn't be strutting his stuff on a first-floor balcony in the interests of free speech. He would be doing it out in the open, maybe in Trafalgar Square, or back here in the Dom.

But one thing about being a revolutionary is that if you do the crime, you have to be prepared to do the time. Yes, I know, Marx pissed off to London, Lenin shot through to Switzerland, etc., but the principle should be that - in the interests of the people - if you want to do something heroic, like our Julian, you have to be prepared to take the consequences.

In our Boy's case, that may well mean confronting the quite legitimate grievances of the hegemon, the Evil Empire. Frankly, if someone hacked into the international communications of ANY nation on Earth, they could dig up God knows what, and commit God knows what crimes in the process.

I know it's good fun shoving a stick up Uncle Sam's @rse but think about it, for once: how many dissidents from various regimes around the world have now been exposed ? I mean decent, brave people, on our side, yours and mine, Poirot, who might have had their names taken down for future reference by some minor US hack.

Maybe the courage of a revolutionary is measured by her or his preparedness to take the consequences for their revolutionary acts. Hey, maybe that's how our Julian saw his heroic r00ting of a couple of puppet Sweden's sluts - oh, sorry, they were Wikileaks volunteers, a couple of ours. Ours.

If you ever go to Ecuador, Poirot, take plenty of condoms. And stay awake, whatever you do. And sober, I suspect, with the light on.

Cheers,

Joe

:)
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 23 August 2012 4:19:54 PM
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"...maybe that's how our Julian saw his heroic r00ting of a couple of puppet Sweden's sluts..."

Dear oh dear, some blokes just can't handle it when other blokes make a mark on the world.....envious much!

Cheers

: )
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 August 2012 5:40:59 PM
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Hi Poirot,

Wikileaks volunteers. People on our side, yours and mine, Poirot, women doing their bit for free speech. Sisters who were allegedly taken advantage of.

Who are the heroes in this case ? Bradley Manning ? These two sisters ? Or a show-pony ?

:)
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 23 August 2012 6:39:47 PM
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Joe, tomorrow, go down to the supermarket and buy yourself a large Swede. Bore two holes in it of suitable size and have your way with it multiple times.

Then, in a more relaxed frame of mind, think about the real issues concerning Julian for whom you seem to have an irrational hatred.

He showed to the world the evil of the U.S. using their own documents knowing he would be relentlessly pursued by them. That took courage.

Joe, when you do something equivalent to Julian then you can legitimately offer some criticism.

Cheers!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 23 August 2012 7:14:44 PM
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Hi David,

So those women are nothing much more than vegetables, is that it ?

No, I don't have any hatred for Assange.

Only contempt.

Cheers,

Joe :)
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 23 August 2012 7:20:05 PM
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