Thanks Poirot, for the link to the Amnesty report on the Swedish idea of justice. It is depressing to see the number of people who see the Ecuadorian government's role as so important; any half decent country, even Australia, should offer Assange asylum.We may have to find some more politicians with some moral character though. I suggest reading his bio. on Wikipaedia. Australian of the Year in my estimate.

Hi Noelreg,

" .... Australia, should offer Assange asylum."

Yeah, maybe you're onto something. All Swedish women are sluts, even those working for Wikileaks. The Swedish government is a puppet of the Obama fascist government. Julia should boost her standing in the Australian community, and amongst genuine Australian feminists, by demanding that our Julian be left alone, to r00who he likes, go where he likes, and do what he likes. He's one of ours, after all.

So let's see - the story so far:

1. Wikileaks has hacked into and then released a vast amount of secret documents from various US agencies, thanks to Bradley Manning, or so it is alleged.

2. Roughly contemporaneously, Julian Assange has r00ted a couple of Swedish birds, one against her wishes to use a condom, and one while she was asleep. Hey, a really Aussie hero !

3. The puppet Swedish government has acted on the complaints of these two birds, or sluts if you like, and quite unreasonably launched legal proceedings against one of ours, our Julian.

4. For incredibly noble reasons, our Julian has fled to the Ecuadorian Embassy, blowing his friends' bail assurances and pitting the British and Swedish governments, for no particularly good reason, against the Ecuadorian government for a long time to come, and by extension most South American populist pseudo-leftist governments.

5. The US has not initiated any legal proceedings against our Julian, either in Britain, that lickspittle, or in Sweden, that other lickspittle.

[TBC]

[continued]

6. A miracle happens, and our Julian arrives in Ecuador, to begin life as a potato farmer, and a potato farmer who is incredibly careful never to criticise the incredibly progressive and democratic government of Ecuador, particularly that of President Correa and/or any of his heirs and successors.

7. The evil US Obama fascist government tries Bradley Manning, for the small matter of copying hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents - a small offence in anybody's progressive eyes - and passing them on to Wikileaks. The evil fascist US government then issues a permanent warrant for the unjustified persecution of our Julian in every corner of the globe.

I suspect that he is going to wish that he had gone to Sweden, done his time for rape and/or sexual assault of his Wikileaks colleagues (perhaps erstwhile colleagues ?), gone to some third country without any extradition device with the US, and then got on with his life as a common-or-garden sleaze-bag, r00ting pseudo-left women at will.

Have I got anything wrong ?

cheers,

Joe

:)

"The evil fascist US government..."

At least you got that right, Joe!

Cheers!

How might this work, David ?

Suppose the Ecuadorian government offers our Julian citizenship, and then:

- gains an undertaking from the Swedish government that if he goes to Sweden to answer the charges from his erstwhile Wikileak colleagues, the Swedes will not allow any extradition directly from Sweden to the US (if the US ever applies for it while he is there, that is).

So our Champion R00ter goes to Sweden, is found guilty of rape, does his time, and comes back to his beloved homeland of Ecuador, to take up his long-cherished profession of potato-farmer ?

Sounds good to me: all his Aussie groupies could fly across to Quito, wave all the right flags, and get bonked to their hearts' content. There you go, Poirot :)

I feel extremely sorry for Manning. Whatever the rights or wrongs of what he did, he acted on his conscience. He has mental issues, and as others have observed, those who selected him for this position, bear much responsibility.

No one can doubt Assange's intelligence – his publicity, his top legal team, and his available money have kept him in the public eye. He is lionised by thousands; thousands hang on every word.

What about Manning? Why hasn't Assange generated as much publicity for Manning? Even Assange's supporters must feel his is a moral obligation to do whatever he can for this man – a man who faced the death penalty.

Perhaps massive publicity would have made no difference for Manning. People also argue that Assange's publicity will ultimately make no difference for him.

Manning seems to be but a 'footnote' to Assange's glory.