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Rights, religion and entitlements to law : Comments

By Jocelynne Scutt, published 23/7/2012

Governments need to ensure no religious standards are allowed to replace secular marriage law.

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generally Christian men treat their wives a lot better than secular men. Just look how easy many of our front benchers dump and trade their husbands and wives for newer models. Me think secularist should get their disgusting act together before judging everyone else.
Posted by runner, Monday, 23 July 2012 1:44:14 PM
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The author may be forgiven for having no clue about religion and what it means, learning about it only by hearsay but no first-hand experience, thus ignorantly equating it with some primitive customs and belief-systems.

The strive for God has been there before mankind, before planet earth was formed or all galaxies for that matter. Religion, the pull toward God, is inherent in every elementary particle, in space and time themselves even. Unbeknownst, religion is also working within the author herself.

What a sad joke it is then to claim that...

"Religion cannot operate without regard to or above secular law. It cannot promote, in its name, unlawful conduct nor support any unlawful status"

- You will have to drink up the ocean and reverse gravity before claiming that some silly state/secular law can overcome religion. It's not the first time that kings and states have tried to oppress God's people and bring about massive suffering and martyrdom, but they will never succeed forever. Religion is at the core of the universe, its very reason to exist in the first place - and religion will always end up victorious. Ultimately, God's will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 23 July 2012 2:21:47 PM
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Dear cohenite,

The beginning of the Dark Ages was when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire. This was marked by the persecution of those who would not accept the state religion. An early example of that was the murder by Christian monks of Hypatia, a brilliant scientist and philosopher, who did not want to become Christian. Although some Christians were for a secular state most were against it. The secular state arose in spite of, not because of Christianity.

Two online opinion articles on the development of the separation of church and state are found at http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10725 and http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10790. The first tells of the growth of the separation in Europe, and the second tells of the development of separation in North America.

Christianity with the Inquisition, the wars of the Reformation and the execution of heretics and followers of other religions has been historically much less tolerant of religious dissent then Islam.

The New Testament is not a revision or updating of the Jewish Bible. It is the sacred book of another religion although it incorporates ideas found in the Jewish Bible. Eg Leviticus 19:18 … thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Posted by david f, Monday, 23 July 2012 2:48:19 PM
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My point David, while not defending Christianity, is that it has undergone a Reformation whereby the New Testament, whatever its origin, has worked to blunt the severity and intolerance of original Christianity, the history of whose outrages and offences I am not interested in pouring over again.

Islam has not undergone such a process which is why it is the most aggressive and intolerant religion in the world today.

Or are you saying that is not the case?
Posted by cohenite, Monday, 23 July 2012 3:45:46 PM
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Dear Cohenite,

I do not understand you. You wrote:

"My point David, while not defending Christianity, is that it has undergone a Reformation whereby the New Testament, whatever its origin, has worked to blunt the severity and intolerance of original Christianity, the history of whose outrages and offences I am not interested in pouring over again."

There was no Christianity before the New Testament. It was original Christianity. Jesus was not a Christian. Paul made a new religion out of the worship of Jesus who was not a Christian.
Posted by david f, Monday, 23 July 2012 4:06:33 PM
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It is amazing that the UK is supposed to be secular law and yet Sharia Law has infiltrated England. Freedom of speech is now limited and blasphemy laws rule, so woe to the person in the UK who gives his negative opinions of Islam. It is considered "hate speech."

So far the US has one up on UK and the EU. We still have freedom of speech although we are constantly having to fight to keep it. Sharia is also trying to creep into the US!
Posted by Patsjc, Monday, 23 July 2012 4:31:58 PM
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