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Terror groups and the exploitation of turmoil : Comments

By Julie Bishop, published 5/7/2012

In killing bin Laden, the West cut off al Qaeda's head, but it has grown new ones and diversified.

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The origins and detailed description of much of the worlds turmoil 101:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com

The USA does not create turmoil, it is a peace loving christian country!
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:01:15 AM
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Very good Julie; the terrorists are diversifying and spreading too; perhaps your article should have addressed the issue of how many of the poor refugees/illegals/boat people are terrorists. The odds are, many are; so thanks to this Green-led, ALP government which, apart from giving obscenely well paid jobs to otherwise useless union hacks, is also betraying Australia's security by allowing potential terrorists to pour unchecked into our country.

Either fix it or kick this government out!
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:51:19 AM
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Does Ms Bishop actually write these articles, or does someone on her staff just pass her the latest CIA Fact Sheet for Dummies and point to where she has to sign?
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:51:23 AM
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cohenite,

"Very good, Julie; the terrorists are diversifying and spreading too..."

Is your panel of advisers headed by George Dubya? I think I may have misunderestimated you : )
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:00:28 AM
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"I think I may have misunderestimated you"

Time will tell.
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:47:45 AM
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BIN LADEN ISOLATED FROM 2005

Why do we trust Ms Bishop's or President Obama's narrative of bin Laden's final years or the effect of his death on al Qaeda?

Do you accept the following narrative or accept America’s unlikely narrative that it had no idea where bin Laden was from mid 2002 to late 2010?

An Indian intelligence estimate “"Do you know how many intelligence operatives work for America inside Pakistan? …There are around 3000 intelligence operatives helping Americans collect information.” indicates the depth of US coverage of Pakistan. http://www.rediff.com/news/special/if-america-kept-pakistan-in-the-dark-on-osama-their-ties-will-end-says-as-dulat/20110505.htm This indicates the US would have been well aware where bin Laden was imprisoned from 2005.

Bin Laden was a spent force in al Qaeda for several years before his execution in 2011.

He was arrested by the Pakistani ISI and its security Intelligence Bureau (IB) in 2005. From 2005 he was in most respects a prisoner under house arrest behind the high walls of the compound in Abbottabad (Pakistan). This effectively meant that he was intentionally isolated from the Al Qaeda rank and file and most of its leadership.

As bin Laden was living in Abbottabad from 2005 his electronic communications, laptop use and written messages were also monitored by Pakistan. It is notable that Abbottabad was the site of a major British signals intercept base during WWII - making it quite possible that Pakistan maintained/maintains legacy intercept facilities in Abbottabad (possibly within the Military Academy).

Bin Laden would have been conscious of the likelihood that Pakistan was intercepting messages to and from the rest of al Qaeda. As a man of the world he would have expected that Pakistan was passing most or all of these message to American intelligence.

It is no coincidence that this passage of al Qaeda information to American intelligence permitted the West to head off all major al Qaeda attacks on the West from late 2005.

Pete
http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/islamabad-marriott-hotel-bombing.html
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:17:16 AM
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