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Terror groups and the exploitation of turmoil : Comments

By Julie Bishop, published 5/7/2012

In killing bin Laden, the West cut off al Qaeda's head, but it has grown new ones and diversified.

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American propaganda is centred around the idea that the world is filled with terrorists who threaten America's interests..., sorry, the West's interests.

Julie is doing her bit to help America by spreading American fear-mongering which inevitably leads to American warmongering and the deaths of millions.

American warmongering is going to end up in nuclear war because both China and Russia are not going to allow the imperial U.S. to push them into a corner and/or to gain control of the major resources of the world.

Neither the LABOR nor the LIBERAL Party have the wit to see where our world is headed.

Australia should divorce itself from the U.S. as quickly as it can before the nukes start falling on us!

http://dangerouscreation.com
Posted by David G, Thursday, 5 July 2012 11:17:35 AM
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You are spot on David G.http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ Here you will see Major General Albert Stubblebine and thousands like him wanting a proper investigation into 911.Stubblebine was in charge of all Army Intelligence in the early 1980's.

See also http://www.ae911truth.org/ Here you will see over 1700 Archirects and Engineers + 12000 other supporters seriously questioning the official story of 911.

Al CIAda as they are known these days have been found in Libya and Syria helping the West expand their imperialistic agenda.

The real terrorists are the financial ones who want a New World Order,more wars and Carbon Taxes to enslave us even more.

Whose side are you on Julia?
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 5 July 2012 5:41:03 PM
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If this is the best the Coalition can come up with then God help us all. If Ms Bishop is being fed her lines from Australia's intelligence agencies then we are in even deeper trouble that I thought.

It is probably too much to expect that she should acquaint herself with even the rudiments of the origins and history of al-Qaeda but why is OLO publishing this manifestly false piece of propaganda?
Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 5 July 2012 8:31:17 PM
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If this is the best the Coalition can come up with then God help us all.
James O'Neill,
Well, a hell of a lot more than what Labor has come up with thus far.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:08:58 PM
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Individual,the left/right paradigm was invented to confuse and divide the masses,while the elites plunder our gullability.

I don't trust the Coalition on their promise to retract the CO2 tax.All the banks need it because of their exposure to toxic derivatives.They want and need the ETS.Malcolm Turnbull is a Goldman Sachs boy and there are many like him within the Coalition.

We need a new political party free from corporate "facilitation money."
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:14:24 PM
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Further to my post on this string, see http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=13829#239060 - regarding the alternate narrative that the US knew where bin Laden was from 2005.

This is not meant to be a criticism of the US or Pakistan. In fact if it is accurate it was an excellent intelligence operation which also disrupted al Qaeda for five and a half years.

It must be remembered that bin Laden valued his own life and his immediate family's (including the wives and children who stayed with him in Abbottabad). So he didn't volunteer to be a suicide bomber.

When he was arrested in 2005 he realised he was living on borrowed time - that his death sentence had been postponed by the US and Pakistan.

The US and Pakistan realised that bin Laden was of more use being kept quietly alive up to 2011 rather than killing him before that. The US wanted him alive while they could gain useful intelligence from him, mainly through his intercepted communications to/from al Qaeda. They also relied on the disruptive effects of this situation on al Qaeda - of having an increasingly isolated, hence ineffectual, leader under house arrest.

Senior figures in Pakistani intelligence (ISI and IB) as well as President Musharraf would have been politically embarrassed if it was known that bin Laden (admired by many Pakistanis) was locked up in their country - yet the US was very appreciative politically and financially. Subsequent US criticism of Pakistan should be seen as overt shadow play which is required to hide the reality of US-Pakistani cooperation.

Also several Saudis in the know wanted bin Laden kept alive. He was admired by many in Saudi Arabia especially within the nationally powerful bin Laden clan.

Bin Laden's al Qaeda subordinates who were aware of his house arrest would have become increasingly suspicious and demoralised the longer he remained immobile in Abbottabad. They would have communicated with him less and relied on him less. With this decline the intelligence value of keeping him alive also declined.

MORE TO FOLLOW BELOW (from Pete)
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:59:19 PM
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