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Without oil, modern civilisation doesn’t work : Comments
By Mark O'Connor, published 30/4/2012How a reckless sell-off is running Australia short of oil and gas.
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Posted by popnperish, Thursday, 3 May 2012 2:37:43 PM
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The problem with your suggestion is that the seams are too narrow to
justify open cut or underground mining. Another reason might be that the seams are too deep. One company, Linc Energy has a prototype plant operating at Chinchilla in Queensland that burns the coal in place and brings the gas up and feeds it into a Topisch plant and produces diesel fuel. They are building a full scale plant in South Australia to use the same process. There are lots of ideas like this but doing it on the scale of oil production is another matter altogether. Still they will all help, but none are permanent solutions. Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 3 May 2012 4:29:26 PM
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popnperish refers to Oreskes and her 928 papers.
Some critiques of Oreskes: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/clouding_the_truth.pdf http://joannenova.com.au/2011/06/oreskes-clumsy-venomous-smear-campaign-busted/ In regard to Oreske's list, I said pick one that you think proves AGW! Why is this so hard to do; that other alarmist Geoff did the same thing and threw a lot of tin pot papers at me. In any event popular Mechanics has a longer list of papers which disprove AGW. I will select this one which inelectably disproves AGW: http://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/2011-09.pdf This paper shows that the well documented climate shift in 1976-77, which was due to entirely natural factors, is responsible for ALL the subsequent temperature increase; this means that the increase in CO2 has had NO temperature effect since 1977; thus conclusively disproving AGW. Please do the same with one of Oreske's papers. Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:03:22 PM
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hahahahahahaha ... deep breath ... hahahahaha ... deep breath ... hahahahahaha ... ROFLMHO
Anthony Cox just can't help it, here on OLO for Pete's sake - simply predictable and simply astounding. Here's a tip - stick to Marohassy, Nova, or the 'Lord's blog sites ... more kudos! Posted by bonmot, Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:54:38 PM
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Well what do you know?
Yes it's another deep, well thought out scientific argument from Bony. Actually this one displays more use of grey matter than most of his posts. Good on you mate, I'm sure you'll get converts with such a searching investigation into the subject. Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 3 May 2012 7:17:08 PM
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Pick a paper bonmot and tell us why it proves AGW; if you're capable that is; I don't think you are.
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 3 May 2012 8:22:46 PM
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Start by reading Naomi Oreske's article and her reference to 928 papers: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702/1686.full