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Without oil, modern civilisation doesn’t work : Comments
By Mark O'Connor, published 30/4/2012How a reckless sell-off is running Australia short of oil and gas.
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Posted by sarnian, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:19:55 AM
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*I do not want the Gov to take any risks in an oil search because I am convinced that there is very little left to find.*
So Sarnian, despite the fact that all these areas have never seen a drill, we should just accept your conviction that there is no oil to find and you clearly don't want anyone to try. How defeatist and foolish of you. Luckily more sensible people have a say in these matters.I remind you that until the 60s, the Australian Govt was convinced that we had no iron ore and the export of iron ore was banned, until a bloke called Lang Hancock showed that there were mountains of the stuff under our very noses. *That means conserving our resources not searching for more that is not there.* Well you really don't have a clue on that. Sorry, but your guesswork is not good enough.I'd rather see some high tech oil majors take their chance and risk their money.If the oil price goes to 300 bucks, they might have a reason for risking even more, as long as we leave them some of the profits to justify the risk. If they had not drilled for gas as they have, you would not have a clue that it was even there. Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:58:09 PM
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Yabby as I have said before with a question ?
In the 1980s hundred of drillings for oil where made at points in a grid iron patern right across both north and south Australia. A Victorian education department employee worked on that project and told me about it but when I tried to get info he clammed up about. Anybody on the list know any thing about this Austrlias biggest driil or the the results. Another source said it was done at the request of Resource minister Rex O'connors. This list does not supply sensible answers to sensible questions. Posted by PEST, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 2:27:27 PM
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Yabby,
Things have over the last 50 years or more progressed beyond just sticking a pipe in the ground and hoping. When they drill these days they have a much better idea of where to find the black gold. An article I read by Colin Campbell illustrated this by knowing where the continental plates have been and where they are going. He commented that that knowledge told them not to waste their time drilling in certain places. If I remember correctly he said that the area North of Canada would be a waste of time for those reasons. So that together with using earthquake pulses as well as their own sonic systems gives them a good starting point. There are other reasons that some areas might not be explored because of the cost of extraction and transport at feasible oil prices. Many areas in Australia would I think be in that classification. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 2:38:08 PM
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*There are other reasons that some areas might not be explored because
of the cost of extraction and transport at feasible oil prices.* Well exactly, Bazz. Oil companies don't focus on the highs but on the lows. Not so long ago, the oil price dropped back to the 40 dollar mark, when there was a bit of a surplus. Oil companies take note. Once oil firmly jumps into the 1-200 Dollar price range, new areas are opened for exploration and drilling, which we have not even drilled yet. Next there is the political risk and financial risk. Given that even posters here want to nationalise oil assets, the moment that oil companies have discovered them, it is simply not worth the risk in many countries, so little or no exploration takes place. Venezuela for instance, has alot of undeveloped oil, but nobody is going to invest there, so production has fallen by 40%. Not because of a lack of oil, but because of the political situation. Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 6:02:53 AM
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Does the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association (APPEA) list at:
http://www.appea.com.au/oil-a-gas-in-australia/history/1959-1999.html deal with your question PEST? Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 6:30:16 AM
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What I do want the Gov to do is face up to the approach of peak oil and take some precautions towards keeping the country moving as much as it will be able to.
That means conserving our resources not searching for more that is not there.
What has nationalizing my house got to do with eking out depleting reserves of oil And Gas?
To do with improving public transport to replace private cars?
No one will be able to afford to drive cars in the near future, except Electric or perhaps alternatively fueled cars.
Face it, life is going to change for you as well as everyone else/.