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Without oil, modern civilisation doesn’t work : Comments

By Mark O'Connor, published 30/4/2012

How a reckless sell-off is running Australia short of oil and gas.

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“The real problem Bazz, is that you and other Australians won't make
a firm commitment to buy that gas.”

The Real problem is that Australia lacks leadership who will take action.
We need a strong government that will bring in tax penalties for overlarge cars, tax incentives for economical cars, such as electric and gas fueled.

In 2005 an entrepreneur in Perth tried to startup the importation and possible manufacture of the Indian electric car called the “Reva”. The Howard Government stopped him, “because they were unsafe for Australian roads”. This was despite the fact that they had been accepted in the UK and were allowed in London, without paying the congestion charge.
It could have been the start of a viable electric car manufacturing industry instead of trying to prolong the manufacture of dinosaur “big” cars here. I am pretty sure that big oil stopped them from becoming established.
Posted by sarnian, Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:12:27 AM
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*We already have NG and as it stands now we could increase the drilling
at a slower rate than we are now undertaking. It is not a problem.*

Well then we would not know that there was gas there, Bazz. There
are plenty of areas left which have never seen a drill. So they
can be kept for the future.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:25:35 AM
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Someone says this:

"Then move on to some climate literature"

The point is if you scratch a peak oiler the alarmist will usually come out of the shadows.

There is no "climate literature"; just reports on modelling; no evidence, just predictions, sorry projections.

A game I like to play is to ask the alarmists to name one paper/literature which supports AGW; just one.
Posted by cohenite, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:29:38 AM
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Yabby, there are thousands of wells to be drilled in Queensland & NSW
over the next very few years for coal seam gas.
It does seem to be there. My suggestion is we stop the export of the
gas so that the drilling will be slowed down and ramp it up as the
demand for NG increases.

Unfortunately billions are being spent to export NG through Gladstone
so it is probably too late to stop the export. We will help other
countries extend their transition time while we exhaust our supply.

By the time the public realises that the politicians responsible will
be relaxing by the pool with their super super.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:42:15 AM
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Australia has failed to support electric vehicles and not just cars.

The 250 watt “pedelec” is the safest mass produced electric bicycle. Available in Europe, Japan, and many other countries but banned in Australia since 2001, it offers a simple, healthy and viable alternative to much motor vehicle travel in urban areas. EU safety regulations applied in 2011 and Australia should adopt them for 7 reasons.

1. In 2008 pedelecs were considered safe and used in countries with overall low road death rates per 100,000 population: Netherlands and  Sweden 4.0, Japan 4.7, Germany 5.4 and China 5.7. All lower than Australia with 6.8 in 2009.

2. pedelecs enlarge public transport catchment areas and make cross suburban travel much easier across radiating rail and express bus networks.

3. Riding a bicycle uses the ergonomic ‘mechanical advantage’ of pedalling over walking to go 3.5 times as far, making tenfold more homes accessible to railway stations. pedelecs are even better.

4. Millions of the elderly find walking and driving too stressful. In 1990 Japan conducted research which found that elderly cyclists needed bicycles with auxiliary  motors that  took 50% less effort to pedal, and contributed to their own overall wellness and mobility.

5. pedelecs look similar to bicycles with male, female, fold up and tricycle frames; have wheels 20 to 28 inches; weigh 15 kg  to 25 kg.; have automatic start by ignition key; cutting out at 25 Km/hr; and use EU approved lithium batteries.

6 pedelec designs  with regenerative  braking when slowing or going down hill extend  the life or range of batteries. They can also be charged during the day from solar cells.

7. At night pedelecs could be charged with off peak mains electricity or from “back up batteries” in pedelec 'stables' at  places of work, study, shop or play,.
The “back up batteries” would be charged from roof top solar cells during the day. pedelecs have the potential to red.

Australia's regulations for 200 watt electric bicycles without automatic speed limit bans the Safer 250 watt pedelec being used
Posted by PEST, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:05:34 PM
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*My suggestion is we stop the export of the
gas so that the drilling will be slowed down and ramp it up as the
demand for NG increases.*

Well Bazz, if there is that huge amount of CSG coming out the top,
there must be enormous reserves of coal below that. AFAIK the
South Africans became pretty good at converting coal to fuel, so
there are the reserves that you worry about. So you can put down
the worry beads and sleep soundly now :)
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 3 May 2012 2:29:32 PM
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