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Government creating a fatherless society : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 15/3/2012

Taxpayer funding for those who want to send the laws of nature into free fall.

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With more than half of all marriages ending in divorce, it's impossible to believe that the majority of divorcing fathers are violent or the Family Court finding that 83% of Australian fathers are unfit to share in the parenting of their own children after separation.

Society can no longer afford this legal scam of a privileged legal class who produce nothing - the modern robber barons - plundering the life savings of working families by holding our children to false allegation ransom

Gillard's FV amendments & National FV Plan are “Hate Men” laws, the WMD of family, the Holocaust of Fathers, the end of shared parenting and a betrayal of children's right to have meaningful relationships with both biological parents. They are the social policy disaster of the 21st century akin to "no-fault" divorce in the 20th - also engineered for family lawyers for profit.

Men might suffer first but women will also be victimised, bribed to breed, deprived of their choice to stay at home to be mothers and forced back into the workforce with 3 month old kids dumped into communist-style daycare for 12 hours a day – 40% pay increases for child care workers.

“Thus camouflaged as human rights, the champions of other people's children make an end-run around more visible clashes over gay marriage, internet pornography, late term abortion, and school curriculum. But the bottom line remains: never before has a government created a legislative & bureaucratic apparatus whose primary purpose is to separate children from their fathers.”

The conservatives must commit to a rebuttal presumption of equal shared care after separation in government - reduce litigated divorce by 50%, save families, save taxpayers $6BN/yr.
Posted by Howard Beale, Saturday, 17 March 2012 12:18:28 AM
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Quite right too, Howard Beale <"The conservatives must commit to a rebuttal presumption of equal shared care after separation in government - reduce litigated divorce by 50%, save families, save taxpayers $6BN/yr."

Let's drag all those kiddies from one parent/house to another , week about, for the rest of their childhood, whether they are happy with that disruption or not. Just so we can appease those Fathers aye?

Sorry, but the courts are there to deal with the children's welfare first, whether you or Marsh like it or not.

If that means that the children are placed mostly with their mothers, then you need to come to terms with those judgments on a case by case basis, and not believe in the juvenile notion that there is some sort of mad 'conspiracy' out there to keep kiddies from their fathers in all family law cases.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 17 March 2012 1:48:56 AM
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@susieonline
"Let's drag all those kiddies from one parent/house to another , week about, for the rest of their childhood, whether they are happy with that disruption or not. "

Oh Susie , do the math.

The current default alternate weekend contact regime requires children change residence at exactly the same rate as equal shared parenting, but only mothers (resident parents) are happy. When parenting is shaved equally 90% of children surveyed are happy with the arrangements.

Howard and Warwick are correct the current system is a social engineering exercise to destroy the traditional family for the sake of the hateful ideology of feminism and it is starting to be seen for what it is.
Posted by rper1959, Saturday, 17 March 2012 8:11:46 AM
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The author, Howard Beale,rper1959 and others, I'll take a punt and say that you all are fathers. When you and you're wife had kids, who stayed home and looked after the children? Back to the subject the author simply hates guy people no other reason for his stance. People hate gay people for mainly three reasons.
1)Religious bigotry guilt for own failing = lash out at easy target = hate gays.
2)Religious bigotry and they are gay = self-loathing = hates gays.
3)Never been hit on by gays= lash out at gays.
Funny really, same motivations for people who hate equal rights for women.
Conservatives by their very nature don’t like change. How many times have people who are afraid of change, preached doom and damnation, the end of the world, but it doesn’t come.
What was it last time oh black people voting and before white women, and before that white men that didn’t own land, and before that......
Posted by cornonacob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:33:04 AM
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Warwick is no friend to those fathers wanting changes to family law that would result in fairer and less damaging outcomes.

Those changes are not about fundamentalist religious vies of the family, they are not about kicking another group wanting fair andequal treatment before the law (and the gay lobby tends to do the same with those wanting pluralistic marriages).

There are plenty of fathers around wanting a system that does not ensure discriminatory outcomes for them based on simplistic slogans or arguments but which accepts that the realities of the choices families make vary enormously.

For example the previous poster asked about staying home to look after the kids, in my own case and that of a lot of dads who have an ex who plays the system for personal advantage that was never a real option. Exs would never have agreed to trade the stay at home role for the grind of a job that earned enough income to keep the family going. The question ignores all the out of work hours parenting done by many (not all) working dads. It takes a single point that simplifies a complex reality into convenient spin.

There are enough cases of dads doing the wrong thing and mums who have tried their best but some could be asking why its so overwhelmingly men who find family law discriminary and damaging.

Its a self serving nonsence to think the difference is that men are less responsible than women (or visa versa), its the result of a system that is very one sided and creates great harm to those on the wrong side of it and provides incentives to use children as pawns for personal gain and or revenge.

Robert.
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 17 March 2012 11:12:22 AM
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"Warwick, you are obviously a homophobic bigot. Well why does such a bigot take a young fatherless homosexual man with AIDS into his home to live with his family?"

Answer: because you hate gays and saw this as an opportunity to make this man pray and repent from his disgusting evil ways. Homophobia pure and simple
Posted by PaulG, Saturday, 17 March 2012 2:09:01 PM
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