Wm Trevor,

Your measured and sensible candour is like a breath of fresh air on this thread.

I was also (ahem) the result of an unplanned pregnancy...and was adopted out. So I had two parents (good-o), but my non-biological father "was" a psychological curse - he gambled and drank and basically made our childhood a misery.

A mum and dad may be the ideal, but it certainly doesn't guarantee anything.

The feminist agenda is clearly portrayed here - and Warwick provides a true picture of the reality. Other unbiased research like that provided by the AIHW confirm that children fare best in a family of their natural mother and father who are in a loving, committed and stable marriage. The question must be asked: why do not governments and political parties take on board this reality and adjust their policies accordingly for the sake of the society it wants to govern? I fear the answer is as Warwick Marsh and Tempe Harvey highlight - an ideology that reflects 'third-wave' feminism and big-government. Both are anathema to a liberal society where both sexes work together to nurture their children and thus provide the best social capital for the nation.

Stick to your guns, Warwick. Don't be intimidated by the attacks from the armchair experts sticking their boots into you.

The Ox,
I don't think too many people have really studied what went on in the USSR and China and the extent to which these "feminists" of both sexes are still in the thrall of those long dead monstrosities.
Homosexuality is not the issue, it's the fact that we have a state approved definition of a family which seeks to supersede by force all other commonly held beliefs on the matter.
By all means, get rid of the marriage act, all official procedures such as tax returns and parenting payments now use the word's 'spouse or de-facto" anyway and let things find their own level
...ah but that's not what these people want is it? They don't want freedom of choice , they want power and control over all opinions, they want an "educated" inner urban socialst elite as managerial state between the capitalists and the "people", (which is a polite way of saying the uneducated, soulless Goyim, the Cattle).

Killarney,

Sorry I forgot to mention the context of Dworkin's quote. Maybe at some point you'll enlighten us poor men folk about when exactly it is ok to beat a man to a bloody pulp and shove a high heel in his mouth.

I can't imagine even the darkest bogeymen of the feminst movement (Schopenhauer,Hegel?) even coming close to Dworkin's vile remark. Certainly, if a man said znything remotely similar today he'd be dragged before some kangaroo court for hate speech. Of course, men are treated as adults and held responsible for their actions while women like Dworkin may say whatever they like.

I'm pleased you don't have anything further to add becasue you didn't have anything intelligent to say in the first place - just the usual tired old rhetoric about misogynist, bigotry, blah, blah...

In any case, I never post on feminist issues like this to debate feminists. I realised a long time ago that most women lack a fundamental sense of fairness that many men posess. Most women may not agree with what Dworkin said but won't go as far to reject that sort of hate speech. And as they are content to silently reap the rewards of such hate speech they are just as complicit. So I don't post for you - I post in the hope that younger men start to regain their confidence and act a bit more like men again.

How sad that so many people commenting on this blog have simply played the man (Warwick) and not engaged in the real debate.
While anyone can quote a few (very few and very small) social surveys that suggest otherwise, (mainly done by lesbian activists) - the vast majority of social researchers clearly show that children need and do best when raised in a stable married environment by THEIR biological mother and a father. To deny this obvious truth is child abuse.
To claim that homosexual sex is natural also denies basic biology and anatomy.
It is time we used common sense and facts, rather than feel good, politically correct, nonsense that is detrimental to children.