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Government creating a fatherless society : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 15/3/2012

Taxpayer funding for those who want to send the laws of nature into free fall.

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“I very much doubt that this family court situation will change anytime soon, no matter how militant some minority groups become.”

The family violence (sole custody) amendments were passed without bipartisan support for the first time ever and a guillotine motion made the night before the family law debate prevented any public debate or scrutiny.

Consider the basis of this reform. Here’s a tip for those playing along at home: Google “Senate Report family violence bill” and see what’s on page 38 in particular the footnote 79.

This is the basis used by Chairperson of the ALP senate committee on the Family Law Bill, Senator Trish Crossin, former Status of Women spokesperson with Senator Louis Pratt, lesbian openly married to a transman, in their recommendations to sabotage the fundamental principles of Western jurisprudence, namely, the presumption of innocence and protection from false allegations:-

“The committee accepts … the clear and succinct synopsis of the research in this area prepared and appropriately referenced by Dr Michael Flood, a sociologist at the University of Wollongong:

He concludes that child abuse allegations in the context of family law proceedings have been researched in four* Australian studies and have found that:

– False allegations are rare;
– The allegations rarely are made for tactical advantage;
– Any such allegation rarely results in the denial of parental contact.

In relation to [the] myth about false accusations of domestic violence and misuse of protection orders he again analyses the research succinctly and concludes:

– Most allegations of domestic violence in the context of family law proceedings are made in good faith and with support and evidence of their claims;
– Women living with domestic violence often do not take out protection orders and do so only as a last resort;
– Protection orders provide an effective means of reducing women’s vulnerability to violence.[79]

This “research” was googled off the personal blog of Australia’s #1 pro-feminist man-hater Michael Flood. Compared with him Tim Flannery should get the Nobel prize.

The LIBS are very aware of this issue and have committed to a review. Make some noise
Posted by Howard Beale, Sunday, 18 March 2012 1:50:00 PM
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Maybe, I’m being a bit harsh. Let's examine these ‘well referenced’ research findings. First and foremost, these are not published in scientific journal or peer-reviewed. They are a “fact sheet” lifted from his personal blog XYonline.

The “fact sheet” appears to simply re-interpret work done mostly by international researchers to make findings not found by the researchers themselves. Moreover, save for Jaffe in 2008 all of that research was done before the Australian Family Law Act was significantly changed in 2006 with the Shared Parental Responsibility amendments.

Any scientist knows that trying to make conclusions about human behaviour through this one valid example is bloody idiotic. No problem for Dr Flood reasoning was thrown out long ago in favour of hysterics.

He usurps the creditability of other people's work by referencing, takes responses from one study out of context and grafts them onto questions to which they are inapplicable to manufacture data that supports his own predetermined conclusion. The efficiency is admirable. The integrity not so much.

There is no evidence for these findings other than his own prejudices. Flood's research advocacy is nakedly, self-serving bull – laughed out of any self-respecting sociology faculty (ANU->La Trobe->Wollongong->Coles deli)

And this is supposed to justify eviscerating the fundamental principles of Western jurisprudence, namely, the presumption of innocence and protections against perjury.

This places all of us at risk. Kiddies sentenced to the dismal cultural lethality of absent fathers. Feminist extremists and controlled girlie-men with tripe research can run around screaming alleged abuse like adolescent meth-heads with Tourettes with impunity while innocent fathers are treated the way Gollum treats the sun.
Posted by Howard Beale, Sunday, 18 March 2012 2:19:22 PM
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I find it ridiculous that a small minority of people worldwide believe that their lifestyle choice, which is a minority in every culture, think that they are right & it's a normal thing they are doing. And that children will not be affected by it! Kids need a strong male & female role model, not one or the other. leading social welfare studies have acknowledged this & research shows the impact of fatherless children has had on the decay of society. Society isn't improving, it's becoming worse. Society starts at home with both mum & dad teaching morals, love, respect & discipline to their children! My daughter has a friend who trust & confides in her that he is ashamed his parents are gay & has asked her not to tell anyone. Where is the much wanted & needed male & female role model he desperately needs? He feels isolated, can't bring friends home yet he didn't choose this. Everyone has got an opinion, & I could say alot more. Just don't shove your lifestyle choice & ideas & opinions of same sex/ fatherless parenting down the throat of 98% of the general population who knows that Adam & eve not Adam & steve is what is normal. it's a minority like you who try to hold the rest of us to ransom by justifying your lifestyle choices then choosing to attack people who don't share your lifestyle choice or twisted belief. Good on you Warwick you are a champion & I'm blessed to know you personally over a number of years & know what a great man of integrity, morals & principals you are. The amount of marriages you have strengthened, the countless hours of counciling, ( at no charge but purely out of love) & the encouragement & love you have sewn into people's lives shows your heart & character. These people who attack you are a minority trying to justify an alternative lifestyle & have no idea who you are & the good you do for everyone around you.
Posted by Straight & normal, Sunday, 18 March 2012 2:24:28 PM
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I expect the ignorant minority to attack but that's all they are, an ignorant minority who 98% of the population knows are incorrect in their lifestyle/ beliefs. I agree that there are bad woman & men in this world unfit for parenting. There are woman as well as same sex couples trying to undermine the importance of male/female role models & should put the kids first before their own agendas.. The most balanced kids come from a combination of 2 proven key ingredients time again. A healthy loving family starting from the example set by both husband & wife treatment of each other & the unique, essential qualities that both genders provide, along with the love, discipline, example they impart to their children. Kids get only one childhood & we owe it to them to provide the best foundation for adulthood which can only come from the model/example explained, & has been proven over the generations. Whether or not this happens comes down to each individual choices they make. Sadly it seems selfishness & what do I gain, how can I benefit from this, is more important to individuals in a society which is increasingly becoming more selfish, wicked, paranoid, less trusting & loveless then ever before. This is visibly leading to social disintegration. Blessed are those who have found true balance in themselves & their friends & family. Definitely a gift from god in these evil selfish times. I thank god for keeping me safe, for providing me with friends with these qualities & an amazing wife. Jesus has turned my world around & he can do the same for you. I encourage everyone as Easter approaches to find out who Jesus is. He is either a lying madman or the truth. There is no in between. Where will you spend eternity?
Posted by Straight & normal, Sunday, 18 March 2012 2:28:20 PM
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Warwick is on solid ground with his article on the relevance of natural law and marriage, the adverse impacts of feminism to families and fatherhood, and government interference with families. Recent papers by Dr Pat Fagan, family research council, Washington DC and Professor Patrick Parkinson Sydney Law School highlight respectively the importance to society of the monogamous heterosexual family and the decline that is happening in western societies due to fragile families.

About any matter there is only one truth. We just need to make time to cast off our ignorance. The natural family needs society's protection and Warwick is commended for highlighting important truths.
Posted by Michael GO, Sunday, 18 March 2012 3:30:23 PM
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> "About any matter there is only one truth."
Posted by Michael GO, Sunday, 18 March 2012 3:30:23 PM

Yes, "We just need to make time to cast off our ignorance".

The truth is that same-sex attractedness is Not a choice for the vast majority that are ~ 98-9%.

Of, curse, given the continuum of human behaviour, and the continuity of sexuality, there are some that choose - a small %.

The truth that same-sex attractedness is Not a choice is a reason many teenagers, becoming aware of their same-sex attractedness, often without support, have committed suicide.

None of this precludes the assertion that "The natural family needs society's protection".
Posted by McReal, Sunday, 18 March 2012 4:59:13 PM
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