'...my town but there is a constant, vicious and hysterical assault on both religions and people of faith in general by secular humanism / atheism.;

In what way? Provide an example.

For the most part most atheists and/or secular humanists are seeking more tolerant approaches to minorities and that there is not undue influence from religious groups on broader individual choices. That includes freedom for any religious group that acts within the confines of the law as well as a safety net for those who may not conform to the prevailing or dominant religious dogma. That includes Christians, Muslims, Atheists and others.

Often in these sorts of discussion any opposition or disagreement with religious policy (regardless of denomination) is met with accusations of anti-Christian or anti-religion. That is not so. There are many examples where accusations of anti-religion have been used to discourage discussion including the attack on critics who spoke out about the management of child sexual abuse cases. Disagreeing with the stance or some of the practices of some religions whether it be Christian or Muslim does not constitute a 'vicious and hysterical assault'. Common decency must allow for people to speak up if there are abuses of any kind, otherwise religious authority or any other sort of authority is vested with too much power which potentially leads to corruption.

In the main (in real life) my experience is that people of varying beliefs and ideas are for the most part tolerant and accepting of the rights of others even if they disagree with the tenets.

runner
Mao and Stalin were not secular humanists. Please ensure you know the meaning before making wild accusations. Clearly if a despot leader is banning any sort of religious or non-religious POV they are not secular humanists.

Pelican

The religion of secular humanism is god denying and has very similar tennants of faith as Marxist. Your denial of history is quite surprising.

Jay, you say: - White Australians are sick of not being consulted or included in discussions about immigration,

Read this from Norway…. Perhaps it would be a better idea if this political dignitary decided to pay a visit to some of the few remaining ethnic Norwegian families living in the area and listen to their stories and ask them how they feel about the massive influx of immigrants and the effect this has had on their neighbourhoods. The dignitary should pay particular attention to the stories that focus on the thousands of Norwegians who have decided to pack up and leave due the reduced quality of life that this immigration has brought about. But of course this will not happen. The political elites are not interested in such accounts, nor are they interested in giving publicity to views that can be construed as criticism or opposition to the official party line.
http://someofmyessays.blogspot.com/2012/02/norway-terra-nullius.html

Yes, Jay, liberal Christians, the media, academia and government have done everything possible to corrupt and undermine our heritage, traditions and values. They have promoted the immigration of people that will cause trouble. It makes them feel good and gives them more power. But you are wrong about the “no conflict” and any cooperation from Muslims is only in self-interest. Note also that the “constant, vicious and hysterical assault” is limited to non-Islamic religions only. Nobody dares criticize the vile ideology of Islam or the many evil actions of their despicable prophet.

Pelican, you say: “Hopefully in the future Muslims and Christians will form some sort of tolerance for each other…”

Won’t happen. Muslims are incapable of tolerance and living in peace with non-Muslims. They have no morals. Note the actions of a Muslim judge in the US:

http://news.yahoo.com/penn-judge-muslims-allowed-attack-people-insulting-mohammad-210000330.html

So Muslims are allowed to attack non-Muslims. Pathetic!

This is coming to Australia, too

Oh dear, the dreaded towelheads under the bed. Have you guys ever heard of a place called Turkey? It's a transcontinental Eurasian country next to Greece on a map. It's also a secular, democratic state with a Constitution which provides for freedom of religion and conscience - and it's about 97% Moslem. Now, what were you saying about there being no such thing as a moderate Moslem?

Cheers,

Tony

Tony,

1. The word "towelheads" is inappropriate. Try "Muslims" "Arabs" or "Turks".
2. They are not under the bed. What they do and say, they do openly. They make no beans about their agenda or their feelings about their stupid religion, their evil quran or their vile prophet.
3. I doubt that you have much contact with Muslims, or you limit yourself to pious "feel good" kumbayah nonsense. Try asking a Muslim, any Muslim, about Quran verse 9;111, the attacks on peaceful villages by Mohammed, or about the pregnant woman split open for offending this evil man. These are not hard to find if one studies Islam and its history. Yet Muslims refuse to be honest about even the most obvious facts.
4. Now look at the Islamic world... Hardly a beacon of tolerance and human rights. From Indonesia to Morocco the only thing in common is Islam. yet Muslims blame everybody and everything except their religion.
5. Now about Turkey. The spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox Christians said Monday that Turkey's new constitution should grant equal rights to minorities in the country and safeguard religious freedoms.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/feb/20/eu-turkey-minority-rights/

If you are unaware of the real situation of non-Muslims in Turkey than I suggest that you do some research before you say silly things- or just ask the Armenians or Kurds about Turkish democracy and tolerance.

Tony, you obviously care little for our freedoms, human rights and basic principles of equality. I think it is very rational to doubt that people who say "Praise be upon him" after the man of a man that murdered, attacked innocent people, enslaved men women and children, tortured, plundered, raped women, etc... qualify as "Moderate".

<< Turkey [is]... a secular, democratic state with a Constitution which provides for freedom of religion and conscience>>

Yeah right, Turkey is a beacon of tolerance & secularism:

" the Turkish Prime Minister, Recip Erdogan, has put his weight behind attempts to crush a small Christian community and to seize an important part of its assets...
There are now under way legal attempts to seize the land surrounding the monastery (necessary for the community’s continued existence) amid claims that the monastery itself was built on land on which there had once been a mosque"
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2011/02/24/another-gross-example-of-the-repression-of-christianity-in-turkey/

"Turkey, citing the offense taken by Muslims in 2005 over the Danish cartoon portraying Muhammad, objected to the appointment of Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen because of his unwillingness at the time to apologize for the freedom of expression."
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/april2009/anti-blasphemy-wild.html

"Today, most historians call this event a genocide--a premeditated and systematic campaign to exterminate an entire people. However, the Turkish government does not acknowledge the enormity or scope of these events...[it] still illegal in Turkey to talk about what happened to Armenia"
http://www.history.com/topics/armenian-genocide