Ybgirp:

...Woo-back…Keyser Trad maybe an official suspect respecting previous Anti-establishment commitments in his past; and this article (to me) hints at an attempt to slide back in on the wings of Multicultural sentiment, (a dismal failure on these pages so far)!

...But you draw the bow too far, when you claim his previous anti-Gay, high profile stance

viz.,

.#... Within every religious culture there exists a body of persecuted dissidents whose self respect is diminished by the ‘culture’ we are urged to respect…#.

Is forming some ill intent, fostered from his cultural surrounds towards homosexuality.

...Wrong I say!... Religion has a responsibility to itself, to oppose immorality from its bowels of belief, irrespective of culture. Homosexuals must live inside their own particular cultural norms, if that culture is subservient to its predominant religious beliefs!

@ Diver Dan,
Homosexuals who live otherwise good lives can receive their reward in this life but people of faith live in the knowledge that they go to a greater reward in the next.

I noticed someone quoting the redoubtable "Mencius Moldbug", there's a lot of truth in what that blogger says.
I've gone on at length describing the differences between "Muslims" and "Lebs" and I don't propose labouring the point but it should be obvious by now that drunken, drugged up Lebanese hoodlums aren't a reflection upon Islam so much as an indictment of multiculturalism/ assimilation and it's globalist culture of Nihilism, corruption and immorality.
I'm in agreement with the idea that Apartheid and Racial segregation were wrong, not in substance or intent but in only their implementation.In a multiracial society people should be allowed to segregate and form enclaves if they choose, where these ideas failed in the past it was because nobody had a choice, that force was used.
Some people like to be among their own kind, others like to live in multicultural societies, some like limited versions of both systems or prefer a socio economic or class based lifestyle.
If I'm honest I'm quite happy to live around Chinese, Southern Europeans and Slavic people, I find there's a lot of common ground since, in the main those groups make up a big chunk of the working class (such as it is).
I don't like being around Africans, Indians, Aboriginals and Middle Easterners and underclass Whites, they are not "just like me", there's really nothing I can learn and no way for me to profit from knowing them and that opinion formed over two decades living in very mixed areas and around the inner city housing estates.

Quote: The message is that these people ruined their country and now they are trying to ruin our (land) made… with our Christian European culture and values.

Yes, that is pretty much it, particularly if we are talking Muslims. Once again, Trad is peddling his “It is not Islam’s fault” excuses, just like in 2008 here at OLO.

Fact: Islam is a religion of hate and violence. Look at the Quran. Checkout verse 9:111. Look at Islam’s prophet – a man that attacked others dozens of times, murdered, lied, plundered, tortured, enslaved men women and children, raped captives, etc… Look at Islamic societies!

Look at what Muslim do everywhere they go: In Sweden, threats and violence cause end of postal service Malmø (Muslim area!)
http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1510124/kriminalitet-standser-postbude-i-malmoe-

In England, radicals are putting up “Sharia enforcement zones”.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019547/Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-extremists-set-Sharia-law-zones-UK-cities.html

In “Arab Spring” countries, Muslims are passing new restrictions on non-Muslims.

In Arabia, they want to kill anyone making the mildest criticisms of their ‘dear’ prophet!

Does Trad address these issues? NO! This whole essay is nothing but a “don’t make us change our (Islamic) ways” message.

Why should we thing that Muslims are any different in Australia than anywhere else?

Quoting myself: It is my opinion that Muslims cannot, in numbers, live in peace with non-Muslims. Our values are different and Islamic theology makes co-existence impossible (we are, after all, just treacherous vile animals according to the Quran). I think this position is widely substantiated by how Muslims conduct themselves where they dominate – and I refuse to believe that American Muslims are in different from their brethren in Islamic societies. If Muslims could, they would impose sharia and their twisted values on non-Muslims.
Note also, having read the hadith, I find it hard to believe that people that love, respect and consider Mohammad a ‘great moral example’ have any goodwill toward us. This problem is compounded by the total inability for Muslims to be honest about simple, clear facts in their own scriptures – and because they will not self-reflect on this problem, they cannot change.
http://americanbedu.com/2012/01/18/saudi-arabiausa-islam-and-muslims-in-america/

Bad times are coming!

kactuz:

...Where Christianity has” wimped-out” on the religious moral imperative, Islam has not: To me, that is the refreshing point. Moral outrage is not a flaw.

Jay Of Melbourne:

And how appropriate for the poignant French quote:- .#... pas d'ennemis a gauche, pas d'amis a droit…#. Should be aligned to our Muslim brotherhood, I would think!

“Enemies to the left, and no friends to the right”

Dan....

I think most of the responses are a little hysterical. It is a fact that most humans feel a need for some sort of religious belief. In itself that's not bad. It is only bad when religions become organised and enforce their beliefs and behaviours on others. Most Australians call themselves Christians, but like most Jews, they're 'secular' believers, choosing for themselves how they want to live and, for the most part, letting others live in their own way. Respondents to this blog assume that all Muslims are fundamentalist radicals, when they're not. Increasingly, more and more Muslims are becoming more or less secular, taking what suits them from their religion and leaving the rest. Given time, they too will dare to speak out against religious leaders such as Keyser Trad who seek to force their beliefs and ideas on others. To pre-judge anyone because of their race, apparent culture or religion is irrational. Thinking people judge others on their values and actions.

Yes, both Christianity and Western Culture have “wimped out” They have abandoned their principles and surrendered to the demons of multiculturalism and Political Correctness. Our leaders cringe under their cowardly “say-no-evil” ideology that is devoid of basic humanistic principles. It is so bad that if you follow the links in the Swedish article I gave, you would have no idea of who is causing all that trouble and crime in Malmo. If takes several links to even get a phrase like this: “Malmö is known for a large influx of new residents.” Oh yes, lets not use the M word.

As to Morality in Islam – there is none. They have rituals and rules but no morality. I have never met a Muslim that can be honest about their religion, their Quran and their vile prophet – and I say that because I have actually studied Islamic theology and history. Wearing a burka or veil might provide modesty, but no morality. Let me put it this way, is there any morality in a person that says “Praise be upon him” after the name of a man that laughs at a pregnant woman being split open for offending him?
http://islam.us/hadith/abudawud/038.sat.html (verse 4348)

Take this example about a Saudi guy…
http://americanbedu.com/2012/02/16/saudi-arabia-what-should-be-done-about-hamza-kashgari/

In the comments, a poster links to an article by an Imam explaining why Mohammed is so loved (this to explain why they need to kill the young man for having an opinion they don’t like).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/imam-sohaib-sultan/why-the-prophet-muhammad-_b_1282689.html

The problem is the article is full of lies, as I point out in my reply. Muslims, even so-called experts like this %@*%! (a Chaplain at Princeton) lie without shame to protect their evil prophet and their own feelings. Bad times are coming and I blame Muslims – and our cowardly leaders.

All Muslims are not fundamentalist radicals, but all Muslims love and honor Mohammed, considering him a great moral example - this a man that attacked, murdered, enslaved, lied, raped and plundered continually for 10 years. Need I say more? Figure out what this means, if you can!