To David Boaz. You claimed that there was no evidence for a causal link between genetics and criminality. But I offered you the example of male and female crime differentials which clearly pointed to a different conclusion. You accept the validity of this point yet you refuse to apply the same principle between races. Males and females are genetically different and whites and blacks are genetically different. I put it to you that the principle that genetics affects behaviour and crime susceptibility is therefore the same.

You have stated that culture is a major determining factor in behaviour and in this you and I are in complete agreement. But I would point out that some ethnic groups have very violent cultures which are based upon the social mores of almost lawless societies, in which male codes of honour remain medieval in concept. The idea that such people will divest themselves of their violent and dated values the moment that their big toe hits Australian soil is naïve in the extreme.

The unacceptably high rates of ethnic criminal behaviour, which is plainly obvious to any Australian not blinkered by Quixotic ideology, is almost certainly primarily caused by the cultural values of the crime prone immigrant groups. But would you not agree that genetic susceptability to criminal behaviour may be an exacerbating factor which multiplies this effect? I put it to you that this country would be far better off by reinstituting the White Australia Policy in order to limit the increasing numbers of people from crime and welfare dependent immigrant groups. This will hopefully begin to mitigate the upward effects on our steadily rising crime rates.

We should condemn discrimination against people that is motivated by a hate for the colour of their necks

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Hi REDNECK...
On the issue of genetic differences, the diff between male and female is much larger I feel than between various races. But I guess the "pre-disposition to crime" should be analysed more deeply. 'Crime' is often just 'survival' (stealing food) but it can also be willful to enrich one's self or ones group or cause. So this resolves down to what I describe as the 3 motivations of humanity.

1/ Survival
2/ Propogation
3/ Gratification

The degree to which these 3 will be present in varying strengths, will be determined by culture and history. The outward characteristics/behavior could easily be confused with 'racial' characteristics, if most people from a particular area manifest the same.

<<I put it to you that this country would be far better off by reinstituting the White Australia Policy in order to limit the increasing numbers of people from crime and welfare dependent immigrant groups>>

Red, you seem to be equating 'whiteness' with 'goodness' and I can't agree with that (if you are) firstly I'm married to an Asian girl and secondly, my 8 yrs with her people convinced me beyond question that there all the phd's that any race could want are just sitting there waiting to be discovered.

I would prefer to urge 2 things

1/ The promotion and upbuilding of our Anglo European (and by default white) prevailing culture and history
2/ The acceptance of others based on social,cultural and political stability criteria. (but skin color is irrelevant)

Point 1 would always be protected, and any hint of 'ethno uppitiness' would be vigilantly guarded against. (e.g. ethnic lobbying to alter the immigration mix along their racial or religious lines)

The concept of us being enriched and blessed by other backgrounds is indeed true, we just don't want to be blessed into non-identity :)

I would expect the same towards me from any other nation I sought to enter.

Redneck- genetic research into crime has found a link between male and female crime- IE men cause more crime due to higher testosterone levels, although this and other factors work together to influence criminal behaviour.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/vda/vda-sec08.html

One of Fraser's pet references is J P Rushton who believes that lower intelligence in blacks, results in more criminal behaviour. Whilst it is true that intelligence is a factor in crime as the above link will tell you, it rates lower than other factors such as environmental ones. The flaw with IQ testing is that it can be culturally biased- for example Sternberg conducted tests in Tanzania and found that whilst on some tests they did not fair so well, on other cognitive tests they did well.

There is no conclusive evidence that supports the fact that some race's are more criminal than others. Dr Don Weatherburn in a report for the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics wrote regarding biological/genetic influences in crime:

"Thus, while there
is some statistical evidence consistent
with the possibility that there may be
inherited factors in crime, that evidence
is also open to interpretation in ways
which do not implicate genetic factors"

Sure, Just look at Africa, North and south, That is a place of prosperity and a lovely place to migrate. In London there is a riseing problem, USA, in the last 40 odd years there has been a rising problem, with Sorry Black Negro race, even here in Australia with Aboriginal crime.The lunatic leftoid consiquence.
Sure, like Islam, it does not apply to all involved, but in the last 40 years something has happened, and that is called "Rise of Leftism", or the phenomina of the self perpetuated warm inner Glow, and the Propaganda of Anglo Phobic's perpetuated by Left wing Sub Intellectuals with other Agendas ,what also relates to that is "Total Denial". and the subversive mannor they had gone about it.

It is not Africa or Arab countries we are migrating to,
is it, Why, because they are stuffed, ask your selves Why.The only social security they have is a Bullet or a Rope.
Culture as redneck points out is a major factor, and only the Anti American or Anti semites would promilgate the abstract.

That is not Racism, that is realism, and it is realism that is effecting Australians , Poms, and Americans,Europeans, 1000 dollar wager to Guess the first European Country to enguage in civil war, yes not so abstract now. How long people think the lie will last is a question time will answer, and when it is answered, you already realise what will happen.
The self motiveted Minority ethnic groups take more than they give, then demand more,they have become the racist and within the hoste countries whilst our Elected officials find more ways to supress you and force the population to capitulate.No logical reasoning, But.
How did we get here, well some of the commentry above answers that Question, not much Academic work entered us into Multiculturalism, just Agendas and a Psychopathic Thinker's?

Yeah All, i'd agree that multiculturalists are 'psychopathic'. multiculturalism itself is very self indulgent, and very excessive. It is an attack of the 'white phobics' - xenophobia replaced with a more 'acceptable' anglo(white)phobia.

Looking through some of these comment I'd have to mention the dull expressionless Egytian guy I know (a 21 one year old old man who seems to be in a permanent state of depression - lighten up bro). Oh and the Kenyan I had to endure for two days - there is a time to dance, and a time not to dance. This 42 year old kid danced all day at the most inappropriate times, at first it was funny then it became annoying. And that pelvic thrust was just plain embarrassing.

I find multi culti excessive & patronising. That said, no race is superior to another race. In this sense Fraser cheapens this article by suggesting so. Some cultural groups (or race) are more powerful but not superior.

Anyway I still like to belong to a group (fellow white people), but not of the ruling class variety (they are all boring and robotic).
So my and others clannish instincts could create problems in OZ if acedemics, politicians, priests and employers don't settle down to reality.

I give the article 5 out of ten. Starts off fantastically, then reaches an anticlimax when talking of racial differences and finishes dismally. Still in all multiculti sux