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Xenophon: attack the church - but not the man : Comments

By Brian Holden, published 19/9/2011

Xenophon doesn’t realise that the church is in a fight for survival.

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And of course "Runner" Jesus Christ is also a fantasy, the same as evolution,tell me where is the proof for either
Posted by Ojnab, Monday, 19 September 2011 4:42:17 PM
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Intelligent design evolved from the dogma of creationism as a natural selection response to the religious lobby's inability to rationally coexist homosapien and rhamphorhynchus.

Back to the point though: more power to the mighty Mr X.
Posted by Neutral, Monday, 19 September 2011 5:29:10 PM
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Let us not lose sight of the victims in this discussion. Note how the Religious continue to use distracting arguments of a scientific bent (no pun intended). The Catholic Church teaches that all people are given the gift of free will so they immediately lose the argument in the defence of their priests, paedophiles or perverts. Statistics from the SAVI report in Ireland (I think) states that a paedophiles sexual provilities in his lifetime will affect (shatter is my word) 77 lives. How many more are not speaking out against this vile man? Well done to the Senator. Perhaps Enda Kenny's Dail speech has created a backlash across the globe against this arrogant and bombastic church? I hope so.
Posted by childaware, Monday, 19 September 2011 9:18:56 PM
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Not to diminish the serious sin of the RCC but Please examine the Jehovah's Witnesses who go door to door and come on our property.

Jehovah's Witnesses pedophiles.
Many court documents and news events prove that Jehovah's Witnesses require two witnesses when a child comes forward with allegations of molestation within the congregation. Such allegations have customarily been treated as sins instead of crimes and are only reported to authorities when it is required to do so by law, (which varies by state).

It has also been shown that child molesters within the organization usually have not been identified to the congregation members or the public at large. These people engage in a door to door ministry, possibly exposing children to pedophiles.

The Watchtower corporation has paid out millions in settlement money already.
-- Danny Haszard abuse victim
FMI
www.dannyhaszard.co
Posted by DanielHaszard, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:53:52 AM
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What a disingenuous article. I was the journalist who published the story referred to by Mr Holden shortly before the visit of the Pope for World Youth Day.
Mr Holden conceals exactly the same information that George Pell did and which formed the focus of that story.
The facts are:
i)the priest involved admitted offences against not one (as Mr Holden states) but at least two victims, one of them of a very young age.
ii)the offenders were both severely damaged by the assaults
iii) suggesting George Pell was "clumsily involved in the cover up" understates the case. For example Cardinal Pell told one victim he was the only known case, when he knew the opposite was true.
The victims and their advocates have every right to play the man, especially as the church consistently blocks accountability as an institution. It can't even be sued!
Above all though, for Brian Holden to suggest that a lifetime of otherwise good works by a priest somehow should be weighed against the damage caused by his sexual abuse shows a total lack of understanding of the extent of the consequences of those attacks.
Educational failure, drug and alcohol abuse, repeated collapse of intimate relationships and self-described chaotic lives are but a few of the symptoms faced by victims. The men who wrought this deserve to be played.
Posted by TP, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 10:00:19 AM
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TP,
The question needs to be asked; Why do celebant Priests do that? I know of many people who have been sexually abused by parents, relatives or friends and the long term affects are equally damaging. The whole problem within society needs to be dealt with; much stems from sexual overexposure within society, or the lack of legitimate sexual intimacy.
Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 10:47:46 AM
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